[Xastir-dev] a readable version of the latest official APRS spec?

Gerry Creager n5jxs gerry.creager at tamu.edu
Wed May 25 14:36:46 EDT 2005


What? Send it to the Sig and have the whole (confusing||unengineered) 
'fix' redebated?  Please, no!

gerry

Tapio Sokura wrote:
> Tom Russo wrote:
> 
>> I think the prevalence of old-style non-fancy TNCs are exactly what 
>> Bob's trying to deal with using his "new n-N paradigm hoops" --- if 
>> every digi
>> used good software that could always dupe-check even on RELAY and 
>> WIDE, or if the APRS infrastructure were a real network with no 
>> explicit source routing, there'd be no need.  But since most digis in 
>> most areas are just TNCs, the hack is needed --- even then it's going 
>> to take for-freakin'-ever to get it implemented.  Leaving RELAY and 
>> WIDE in the MYALIAS parameter of simple 
> 
> 
> Yeah. I'm surprised that there seems to be about zero intelligent 
> microcontroller-based digipeater platforms available that speak KISS to 
> a regular TNC. The hardware to speak KISS to a TNC (and maybe to a host 
> computer as well, so an igate can be run along with the digi and the 
> digi would still continue working after the computer crashes) should not 
> cost more than some tens of dollars. This way you could turn any 
> KISS-capable TNC into an intelligent digipeater with little investment 
> and you don't even have to throw old hardware away, which seems to be a 
> big hurdle for some hams.
> 
> Of course someone has to program the intelligence into the digipeater, 
> but that should not be a huge task with today's microcontrollers that 
> have enough memory and don't have to be programmed in clumsy assembler. 
> And you need the electrical design and someone to sell the kits, but it 
> really should not be that hard. If a fraction of the effort spent into 
> giving CPR to current KPC-3s etc were spent into designing a working 
> system, the APRS network would be in a lot better shape. There are some 
> projects like N1VG's upcoming TNC that will hopefully improve the 
> situation, but it will not be enough alone; also those old KPC-3s and 
> even dumber digipeater TNCs need to be upgraded or trashed for the 
> network to really work.
> 
> Ugh, looks like I'm well off-topic here, maybe I should've sent this to 
> aprssig instead..
> 
>   Tapio
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