[Xastir] Digipeating

[hasan schiers]

Tyler,

Yes, I will keep running ui-view32 via agwpe on a Windows box. If it ever
reaches that point I can keep agwpe running by itself, and use it to manage
the tncs > serial ports.(assuming I can get the Debian machine to properly
run on a Windows network (I had some real problems trying to get a Red Hat
version working properly, but I'm sure I just had no idea what I was
doing)).

The ideal solution (in my mind) would be if Xastir would talk to Digi-ned
and Digi-ned talked to the TNC's, so the box could stand alone if desired.
Again, this is conceptually different due to my existing experience. Right
now ui-view32 talks to agwpe which manages the tncs....BUT, ui-view32 has
internals to handle smart digipeating. Another possible solution is agwpe
digi...but I don't know it's capabilities....and it keeps windows in the
picture.

Thanks for your ideas, they were very informative. Perhaps others will be
able to see what I'm currently doing, and how Xastir and digi-ned may or may
not fit into this "conceptual" framework.

This would not be such an issue if it weren't VERY IMPORTANT for home
stations (at least a few key ones) to be full performance smart digis at the
same time they run the client software. Currently, the only client I know
that does this is ui-view32. I don't object to running multiple distinct
programs to accomplish the same thing, but I do want them to be integrated
so Xastir sees the RF ports transparently, even if being managed by
digi-ned.

I have a LOT to learn....but I want to get the concepts down first. If I
can't do what I need to do conceptually, then that's another matter. I'm
betting there is some combo available, short of agwpe and agwpe digi.

73,

...hasan, N0AN
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tyler Allison" <tyler at allisonhouse.com>
To: "hasan schiers" <schiers at netins.net>
Cc: <xastir at lists.xastir.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Digipeating


> >
>
>
> > I went to the Xastir web site and began reading, and ran across
something
> >  that I may have misinterpreted. In a reference to digi-peating, it
> > seemed to be saying that Xastir doesn't do any internally (unlike
> > UI-View32 which has a smart digipeater function built in), and commented
> >  that the digipeating was done in the TNC. Eeeuuchh! That is not an
> > acceptable solution for me. No tnc hardware does a good job of smart
> > digipeating, and besides that, I'm not interested in buying new TNCs.
>
> Xastir is firstly an APRS client, secondly a relay host. It doesnt have
> any traditional digipeating capability. What I mean is that it wont sit
> and watch a TNC, grap packets off the TNC, mangle them some way, and send
> a copy back out a few seconds later. At least not that I know if.
>
> It can 'relay' weather alerts, Internet to RF, RF to Internet, etc.
>
> >
> > Then there was a second comment that digi-NED could be used. My
> > questions:
> >
> > 1. Will Xastir and digi-NED run side-by side on the same machine?
>
> They could...yes.
>
> > How does Xastir interface to digi-NED, or does it not do that?
>
> I've not used digi-NED but if it has a port you can connect to
> send/receive APRS packets then you can have the local Xastir talk to the
> local digi-NED which manages the TNC.  Similar to if you didn't have a TNC
> and wanted to use one of the internet aprs servers to send/receives aprs
> traffic.
>
> > I am so used to having a configurable smart digi integrated into the
aprs
> > client, that I'm having trouble imagining how to accomplish the same
> > thing with two different clients. (port contention issues)
>
> If you intend to have DIGI-NED *AND* Xastir utilize the same serial port,
> then yes...you will have port contention.
>
> >
> > 2. A local station told me that Xastir could interface nicely with AGWPE
> > on a Windows system. How is that accomplished?
>
> You can setup AGWPE on a windows system on your network and tell Xastir to
> talk to AGWPE's TCP/IP port.
>
> >
> > I want to keep my ui-view32 system running, (on a different machine on
my
> >  network) but wish to experiment with Xastir on its own dedicated Debian
> > machine, on this same network.
>
> If you can setup AGWPE on a windows box on your network you should be able
> to point both ui-view32 *and* xastir at the same AGWPE server and do your
> testing that way. If ui-view32 is already on a windows sytem using AGWPE
> you can simply point the Xastir client at the AGWPE server that your
> ui-view32 system is using and be good to go.
>
> > I'm thinking in the long term, Xastir has
> > a strong potential for continuing development, while UI-View, due to
> > Roger's unfortunate health situation, may not.
>
> No slight on Roger and I wish him a swift recovery but you are probably
> thinking intelligently.
>
> -Tyler
>
>
>