[Xastir] Good news, Bad news...

[Tom Russo]

On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 09:43:42PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <rtg at aapsc.com> flavor, containing:
> You're talking about issues with the current version of openmotif, but the 
> Ubuntu distribution selects the lesstiff2 package by default.  On my 
> system, the xpdf application also depends on lesstiff2, and does not 
> exhibit the 'missing labels' problem.

Yep, sorry.  

Curt was the one who had to downgrade OpenMotif to the previous version.  I
use OpenMotif on Ubuntu 7.04 and haven't upgraded to 7.10 on any of my machines
yet.  Just bought the kid a new laptop though and it has 7.10 on it, so when
I get a chance (which could be after Christmas) I'll put Xastir with OpenMotif
to see if that answers the problems.  I'm disinclined to go with lesstif
myself because of a few issues that I know are wrong in lesstif.

I agree with you somewhat about the lesstif issue: so many applications seem 
to feel it's a completely acceptable alternative to OpenMotif that there must 
be something in the way Xastir is coded that is different than those 
applications -- but that could just be that those applications don't use 
standard Motif techniques that lesstif gets wrong (xastir uses one, at least).  

> Rick Green, N8BJX
> 
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Tom Russo wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 03:49:04PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
>> collision of the <russo at bogodyn.org> flavor, containing:
>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 02:54:24PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
>>> collision of the <russo at bogodyn.org> flavor, containing:
>>>> On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:25:02PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron 
>>>> collision of the <rtg at aapsc.com> flavor, containing:
>>>> [missing fonts with recent versions of openmotif]
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I know the developers have been saying this is a bug in the motif
>>>>> libraries, but I don't see this artifact in any other applications 
>>>>> which
>>>>> depend on those same libraries, so there must be some component of 
>>>>> coding
>>>>> style involved as well...
>>>> 
>>>> I just spent ten minutes googling the issue and found this:
>>>> 
>>>> http://bugs.motifzone.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1381
>>>> 
>>>> Turns out that there *is* a bug in openmotif related to labels and such 
>>>> that
>>>> are set to insensitive with the XtSetSensitive function.  We use that 
>>>> all
>>>> over the place.  They claim to have it fixed, but the fix is ifdef'd, 
>>>> meaning
>>>> you'd have to recompile openmotif from source with that symbol defined.
>>> 
>> [...]
>>> 
>>> The relevant resource looks like it would be the one that sets the 
>>> FontType
>>> in the render table, but I don't know how much of the other parts of the
>>> example resource file in that bug report would be necessary to get the 
>>> job
>>> done in Xastir.  I would think it was just the one line, but not sure.
>>> 
>>> If someone with time could read through
>>> http://www.ist.co.uk/motif/books/vol6A/ch-25.fm.html
>>> and see if they can make heads or tails of it enough to try something, 
>>> that
>>> would probably be of benefit to the community.
>> 
>> It looks like if one were to create a resource file, say, "resource.test" 
>> with:
>> 
>> *.fontType: FONT_IS_FONT
>> 
>> in it, then make xastir use it by running:
>> 
>> XENVIRONMENT=`pwd`/resource.test /usr/local/bin/xastir
>> 
>> then perhaps the issue might clear up.  Could someone try it?
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Rick Green
> 
> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
>                                   -Benjamin Franklin

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