[Xastir] Installing Xastir 1.9.9 on Ubuntu/Debian

Mon Aug 2 21:01:56 EDT 2010

Kamal,

As Curt WE7U said in a separate email... "VERY"

I wish I had a magic wand that would make the Xastir development
community and the _entire Linux ham community_ join together in one
place and use only one standard file structure; and one common email
reflector.

APRS objects and thus Xastir objects and subsequently Xastir program
development move at very fast speeds (like ISS speed!) so if everyone
is not tuned into the same frequency or email reflector then some well
get left in the dust.

As I said, I am going back to college/university in three weeks thus
ham radio and I are taking a break from each other while classes are
in session.  I hope everyone can figure out how to keep things moving
forward and keep the lines of communication open; after all this is
ham radio, we communicate when no-one else can.

73
Dave
KB3EFS

-- 
David A Aitcheson
david.aitcheson at gmail.com
david.aitcheson on google and skype

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Kamal Mostafa <kamal at whence.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:38 -0400, David Aitcheson wrote:
>> [...]
>> Kamal has a (NOW OUTDATED) ".deb" file on his launchpad PPA instance
>> that some are using.  (KAMAL HINT HINT  it needs to be updated
>> already!)
>
> The xastir version in my Ubuntu PPA
> https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/xastir
> is merely one month old (xastir199-2010-Jul-01.tgz).  How OUTDATED can
> it possibly be, David?  ;-)
>
> I think we're all in agreement that xastir needs an active Debian
> uploader.  My PPA isn't (shouldn't be) the "preferred" distribution
> method for regular xastir releases.
>
> Jerry Stueve has made available xastir 1.9.9 packages for Debian --
> those have been awaiting review and upload by a Debian Developer for
> some time now, so I am cc'ing Hamish Moffatt at Debian here also.
>
> 73 de KA6MAL
>
>  -Kamal
>
>
>
>>   Check the Xastir Wiki and the Xastir email reflector
>> archive for late breaking tips.
>>
>> It would be good to get the 2010_August_01 build out to as many as
>> possible as that should solve a lot of the lingering problems.
>>
>> 73 & Good Luck All
>> Dave - KB3EFS
>> --
>> David A Aitcheson
>> david.aitcheson at gmail.com
>> david.aitcheson on google and skype
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Scott Evans <scott at vk7hse.hobby-site.org> wrote:
>> > I'm now running Debian sid and the ubuntu howto works just fine, the
>> > only thing I do is to compile the gdal (1.7.2), libgeotiff (1.3.0) and
>> > proj (4.7.0) from source, then no extra config flags are required.
>> > Although I haven't attempted to do this on Debian lenny there may be
>> > some package versions that have different numbers in them, but its not
>> > to hard to figure that out if needed.
>> >
>> > It also appears that the Amateur Radio group for maintaining Debian
>> > packages seems to be a little on the quiet side! if there are any on
>> > this list, I'm interested in helping where I can, as I've recently
>> > become the maintainer for another project.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Scott Evans <scott at vk7hse.hobby-site.org>
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Xastir mailing list
>> > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
>> > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
>> >
>>
>> Subject: Re: Xastir and Ubuntu
>> From: Jerry Stueve <K4INT at ARRL.Net>
>> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:40:07 -0400
>> To: Steve Conklin <sconklin at canonical.com>
>> CC: David Aitcheson <david.aitcheson at gmail.com>, Kamal Mostafa
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>> On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 15:58 -0500, Steve Conklin wrote:
>> On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 12:43 -0400, David Aitcheson wrote:
>> Steve,
>> Hi, de Dave KB3EFS.
>> I am trying to get Xastir set up in a PPA of its own or added to the
>> Launchpad Xastir portal.
>> I think that is the best way to move forward and get things more
>> current on a more recurrent basis.
>> What do you think?
>> I am not aware of how to "sign" a gmail email so I am including my
>> Re: Xastir and Ubuntu mailbox:///home/aitch100s76/.thunderbird/7s7rt3t0.de...
>> 1 of 3 08/02/2010 06:04 PM
>> public key below.
>> My key id is 0x897A0CC0
>> My fingerprint is 6E6B 8F72 56EF 32FD 6C64 5F65 37D9 01FC 897A 0CC0
>> 73
>> Dave
>> KB3EFS
>> Don't sweat signing the emails. If you want to do that there are plugins
>> for evolution, thunderbird, and other clients.
>> While setting up a PPA with a daily build isn't hard technically (we do
>> that for upstream kernels in Ubuntu), it brings up some process issues
>> that need to be discussed as part of all this. This may be long, so I
>> apologize in advance.
>> I'm including Kamal Mostafa in the reply because he's prepared the PPA
>> that's now active with the latest xastir, and because he understands
>> Ubuntu and Debian packaging pretty well (better than I do). I'm also
>> including B'dale Garbee because I reference a chat we had, and Gerald
>> Stueve, since his Debian packages for xastir have been languishing.
>> OK, I built a 1.9.9 version for Debian.
>> While setting up a PPA for bleeding edge xastir in Ubuntu seems like a
>> great idea (and might be for developers), we run a real risk of it
>> becoming the defacto xastir delivery channel for Ubuntu. This would be a
>> real problem because it circumvents the desired flow of packages from
>> Upstream (you) to Debian and then on to Ubuntu.
>> Having packages flow through Debian in this way prevents splitting the
>> Debian and Ubuntu communities, keeps versions mostly sync'd, and makes
>> everything easier. It also lets us apply our limited packaging resources
>> in only one place.
>> The real solution to the problem is to have an active Debian maintainer,
>> who can keep the Debian xastir package up to date. Even with a packager,
>> things stall in Debian, and xastir is a really good example of this. In
>> April Gerald Stueve packaged 1.9.8, and it's still sitting and waiting
>> for upload by a Debian Developer.
>> Part of the reason that packages stall in Debian is because they had a
>> very prolific developer and packager (Joop Stakenborg) who recently
>> reduced his involvement in Debian for personal reasons. Some people have
>> stepped up to help with Joop's packages, but he had very big shoes to
>> fill. We are cultivating Debian Maintainers and Debian Developers from
>> within the Ubuntu-hams community, but we can't step in overnight and
>> perform the Debian tasks.
>> I just had a chat with B'dale Garbee, who is a long-time Debian
>> Developer and ham package maintainer. He understands the current
>> Re: Xastir and Ubuntu mailbox:///home/aitch100s76/.thunderbird/7s7rt3t0.de...
>> 2 of 3 08/02/2010 06:04 PM
>> situation, and said that he will upload Debian packages which are
>> prepped by community members, as long as they are simple and obvious
>> things like new upstream versions, and the uploads don't include any
>> controversy over undoing changes or issues like that. He's also
>> available to sponsor people who want to become Debian Maintainers, and
>> help get them upload rights for specific packages.
>> Only patch for Debian geotiff subdirectory for include files.
>> What I propose is this:
>> If Gerald is interested in an ongoing role as the Debian packager for
>> xastir, then he can repackage the latest upstream and contact Bdale in
>> the future for uploads. He could take what Kamal has already done with
>> xastir-1.9.9 or do it over.
>> If Gerald isn't interested in packaging xastir for Debian, I'm willing
>> to take this on and begin working in earnest to become a Debian
>> Maintainer, working with Bdale. I use xastir so I don't mind getting
>> more involved with it (although I am not a power user).
>> If it needs a formal RFS, I will fill one out for tracking.
>> In either case, we should be able to get the latest xastir into both
>> Debian and Ubuntu pretty quickly with this plan.
>> How does that sound to everyone?
>> Now - the question of whether we should have a daily "unstable" build of
>> the tip of upstream in a PPA is a separate one, and we can take that up
>> as needed.
>> Steve AI4QR
>> --
>> Jerry Stueve <K4INT at ARRL.Net>
>> GPG Fingerprint: 649A D922 01E7 3D72 0170 518F C49B 810C 5A0B 7597
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