[Xastir] NWS Info
Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate
gerry.creager at noaa.gov
Mon Feb 19 06:54:00 PST 2018
Kevin
Hopefully we won't send too many your way this year, or if we do, they
won't affect you and your folks!
gerry n5jxs
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Kj5fa <kj5fa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hello Tom. The latest script worked great. Got the shapefile loade and
> changed settings Now waiting for some warnings to come into my area.
>
> 73s,
> Kevin KJ5FA
>
>
> Sent from Blue
>
> On Feb 16, 2018, 12:45 PM, at 12:45 PM, Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org>
> wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 08:53:24AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron
> >collision of the <russo at bogodyn.org> flavor, containing:
> >> I did take a quick look at the new NWS site, and it looks like they
> >only
> >> rearranged things and moved the URL, and not like they actually broke
> >all the
> >> shapefiles.
> >>
> >> I think it may be an easy matter to update get-NWSdata again, because
> >it'll
> >> just be a matter of changing the fetch urls we use.
> >>
> >> Won't be able to do that until tonight.
> >
> >Make me a liar. It was fairly straightforward, but there were some
> >newly
> >updated files, and surprisingly, a couple of files whose revision dates
> >had
> >not changed but whose DBF signatures *HAD* changed since Curt last
> >updated
> >this stuff.
> >
> >That complicated matters slightly, because it meant creating more
> >"backward
> >compatibility" dbfawks. That is necessary so that folks are not
> >*forced* to
> >update NWS shapefiles by this commit if they already have a set that
> >works for
> >them. If you like your NWS shapefiles, you can keep your NWS
> >shapefiles.
> >
> >Fix is in, tested, and pushed to git master. This won't help you much
> >if
> >you're working out of 2.1.0 tarballs (dang it), but if you're running
> >off of
> >master, a git pull and reinstall will do the trick.
> >
> >The fix is git commit 1f40ff1. One could conceivably use a diff
> >created
> >from this commit to patch 2.1.0 if one wanted (package maintainers
> >might want
> >to do that). I don't think I want to do a patch release just for this,
> >but
> >I supposed that would be possible.
> >
> >We apologize for the inconvenience.
> >
> >> While most of the files haven't changed since get-NWSdata was last
> >updated,
> >> a couple have, so I'll also have to check that the dbfawk files still
> >work
> >> with the new ones.
> >>
> >> That is, unless Curt is just dying to jump in and take this over, in
> >which
> >> case he should reassign the bug to himself:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/Xastir/Xastir/issues/26
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 08:34:11AM -0700, we recorded a
> >bogon-computron collision of the <russo at bogodyn.org> flavor,
> >containing:
> >> > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 06:22:59AM -0600, we recorded a
> >bogon-computron collision of the <kj5fa at sbcglobal.net> flavor,
> >containing:
> >> > > Thanks Tom.
> >> > >
> >> > > This looks promising. I have ran the get-NWSdata script, but it
> >looked
> >> > > like it errored out not being able to find the files. I went to
> >the
> >> > > webpage where the permanent location was supposed to
> >> > > be(www.weather.gov/gis if my memory is good from last night) and
> >could
> >> > > not find a way to download a file?
> >> > >
> >> > > With these new instructions I will try again this evening.
> >> >
> >> > GROAN. Yes, get-NWSdata is broken again.
> >> >
> >> > It looks like NWS has *completely* revamped their entire GIS
> >download site,
> >> > and the get-NWSdata script no longer works. The links we used in
> >> > that script now return HTTP error pages instead of zip files. This
> >has
> >> > happened sometime since Curt last updated the script, in September.
> >> >
> >> > I do not have time to look into this until at least tonight or
> >tomorrow.
> >> > Odds are good that even if I can hack the script up to obtain the
> >newest
> >> > files from NWS's reorganized site, they'll have changed the format
> >again
> >> > and Xastir will need additional adjustments. This will take some
> >time.
> >> > Yay.
> >> >
> >> > I just happen to have run get-NWSdata between the time that Curt
> >updated it
> >> > last and the time NWS invalidated it, so I have all those
> >shapefiles on my
> >> > system. I will try to zip them up and put them somewhere where
> >they can be
> >> > downloaded as a temporary workaround. That way you can bypass
> >get-NWSdata
> >> > and use a set of (possibly slightly outdate) zip files that worked
> >at least
> >> > as recently as September. I might not get to that until tonight.
> >When I do,
> >> > I'll post updated instructions for the temporary workaround.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for calling this to my attention. I very rarely update my
> >own
> >> > NWS weather alert shapefiles, because the actual shapes in them for
> >my area
> >> > of the country pretty much never change --- I can usually get away
> >without
> >> > updating them for a few years at a stretch. Luckily I had just
> >done it before
> >> > get-NWSdata became borken.
> >> >
> >> > > On 2/15/2018 11:34 PM, Tom Russo wrote:
> >> > > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 09:55:51PM -0700, we recorded a
> >bogon-computron collision of the <russo at bogodyn.org> flavor,
> >containing:
> >> > > >> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 09:31:22PM -0600, we recorded a
> >bogon-computron collision of the <kj5fa at sbcglobal.net> flavor,
> >containing:
> >> > > >>> Can someone point me to the instructions of how to get NWS
> >warnings to
> >> > > >>> show up on my map in Xastir?
> >> > > >> Looks like there is no one spot where all the instructions are
> >clearly laid
> >> > > >> out. Rather, it is scattered about in README.Getting-Started
> >and other
> >> > > >> places. Even the Wiki doesn't have it clearly stated in a
> >single spot. This
> >> > > >> is unfortunate and should be fixed.
> >> > > > I have tried. There is a new "HowTo:Weather Alerts" page on
> >the wiki, linked
> >> > > > to from the main HowTo page.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Please let me know if this is not enough to get you going.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> So here goes:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> - You must have NWS shapefiles downloaded and installed in
> >your
> >> > > >> maps directory. Get them using the script "get-NWSdata"
> >included in the
> >> > > >> Xastir scripts directory. That's
> >/usr/local/share/xastir/scripts if you
> >> > > >> installed from source. Leave out the "local" if you've
> >gotten via a
> >> > > >> binary package.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> This script must be run as root (or better yet, with
> >sudo).
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> NWS changes the format of their shapefiles often, and
> >this requires us to
> >> > > >> chase their file format a lot. If you're not running a
> >recent version of
> >> > > >> Xastir, you might have trouble getting suitable
> >shapefiles from NWS. This
> >> > > >> one script is the single most frequently updated file in
> >Xastir.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> The script in Xastir 2.1.0 or git master was updated
> >recently enough that
> >> > > >> it should work and get you the right files.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> - Then, after you've downloaded the NWS shapefiles, you
> >must get them indexed.
> >> > > >> A restart of Xastir will do it, but you could also use
> >the menu entry
> >> > > >> "Map->Configure->Index: Add new maps"
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> - You must be connected to an on-line APRS-IS source that
> >sends weather
> >> > > >> alerts. Only those of a particularly high level of
> >urgency are sent
> >> > > >> on the normal rotate.aprs.net or rotate.aprs2.net
> >servers.
> >> > > >> Firenet.aprs2.net will have the lower level alerts
> >(advisories and
> >> > > >> watches, not just warnings).
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> - You must enable display of weather alerts in the map menu
> >and NOT select
> >> > > >> "Disable all maps"!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> That should be it.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> --
> >> > > >> Tom Russo KM5VY
> >> > > >> Tijeras, NM
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr
> >[a-m][n-z] [n-z][a-m]
> >> > > >>
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> >> > --
> >> > Tom Russo KM5VY
> >> > Tijeras, NM
> >> >
> >> > echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> >[n-z][a-m]
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> >> > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom Russo KM5VY
> >> Tijeras, NM
> >>
> >> echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> >[n-z][a-m]
> >>
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> >
> >--
> >Tom Russo KM5VY
> >Tijeras, NM
> >
> >echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> >[n-z][a-m]
> >
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