[Xastir] Xastir down after upgrade to OSX 11.3 " Big Sur"

f1mhv f1mhv at free.fr
Tue May 11 12:54:53 PDT 2021


Good evening Jason, Tom & Curt,

Make clean done. Build directory emptied. I even manually deleted xastir and xastir-udp from opt/local/bin. Git pull completed and rebuild-> same problem:

xastir


Built-in map types:
      gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
       pop   USGS GNIS Datapoints w/population
       map   APRSdos Maps
       map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps

Support for these additional map types has been compiled in: 
       geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many formats allowed)
       geo   URL (Internet maps via libcurl library)
       geo   URL (OpenStreetMaps via libcurl library
                  Copyright OpenStreetMap and contributors, CC-BY-SA)
       shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
       xpm   X Pixmap Maps (XPM library)
No protocol specified
Error: Can't open display: :0
xxx ~ % UDP_Server process died.

When i did « make » i had a bunch of ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libcurl.dylib) was built for newer macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)

I have the latest Xcode 12.5 + Command_Line_Tools_for_Xcode_12.5 installed.

"If that doesn't work, my next suggestion would be to see if you have up to date X 11 libraries installed (sounds like you get them from macports.) »: how?

I went thru https://trac.macports.org/wiki/BigSurProblems and checked without further findings.

"I do not recommend that you run autoupdate, just let autoconf complain about the obsolete uses for now. »: ok.

"Is there anyone left trying to run Xastir on really, really ancient operating systems? »: yes on OSX 10.5.8 on a 1st gen mac mini… sorry. 

"So in the future, if you suddenly find bootstrap complaining about these being "obsolete" and telling you "you should run autoupdate" --- IGNORE IT for the time being.  It's just noise for now (until they remove the feature some day), and running autoupdate may break soemthing else »: ok.

Cyril.

> Le 11 mai 2021 à 20:37, Jason Godfrey <godfreja at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Hello.
> 
> My suspicion is anyone running that old of a system doesn't have running
> the latest software as a priority, so we can get by suggesting running
> versions before a particular date.
> 
> - Jason
> 
> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:12 AM Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org> wrote:
> 
>> So, here's a thing to ask the community at large:
>> 
>> Is there anyone left trying to run Xastir on really, really ancient
>> operating
>> systems?
>> 
>> A lot of the things that the most recent autocof is flagging as "obsolete"
>> like "AC_HEADER_STDC" and "AC_HEADER_TIME" is obsolete ONLY because most
>> modern
>> systems are so compatible with each other that these things are almost
>> never
>> needed anymore.  They were the norm back when people were running all sorts
>> of proprietary Unix systems like Slowlaris, AIX, etc., and these systems
>> had
>> compilers that predated most POSIX standards.
>> 
>> These days there are very clear standards that all modern systems abide by,
>> and this sort of clumsy portability hackage is obsolescent.  The GNU folks
>> are increasingly deprecating things that harken back to such old systems.
>> 
>> I am fixing the actually obsolete autoconf stuff that *isn't* specifically
>> targeted at backward portability to ancient systems, which will fix most
>> of
>> the warnings shown in this email (like the AC_LANG, AC_TRY, etc. warnings),
>> as these all have straightforward equivalents in modern autoconf that have
>> been present in all versions of autoconf since 2006.
>> 
>> BUt removing things like AC_HEADER_STDC and AC_HEADER_TIME and friends also
>> means removing all the clumsy portability code in Xastir source that NEEDS
>> those probes, along with a number of completely unnecessary probes for
>> standard
>> POSIX functions and the ifdefs that work around their absence.  That is
>> more
>> than I can do in a quick hacking run in between longer hacking runs as
>> part of
>> my day job.
>> 
>> It would be a good idea at some point to declare that newer versions of
>> Xastir
>> will only run on systems that support the C standard, and not on
>> retrocomputing
>> platforms that use proprietary, pre-standard compilers.  Then we can
>> actually
>> remove a lot of unnecessary portability kludges from the late 90s.
>> 
>> In the meantime, however, new users of Xastir will start seeing more of
>> these
>> confusing warnings from "boostrap" that imply something is wrong and
>> telling
>> them to run "autoupdate" when they really should just ignore the warnings.
>> 
>> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:37:12AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron
>> collision of the <russo at bogodyn.org> flavor, containing:
>>> The things that autoconf is complaining about are "obsolete" as of
>> autoconf
>>> 2.60, and Xastir's autoconf is meant to be compatible with much older
>>> versions.
>>> 
>>> It looks like 2.60 is old enough (2006) that it should be no problem at
>> all
>>> to update our configure process to require it instead of 2.53, and fix
>>> these antiquated uses.  I'm testing that now.
>>> 
>>> I second Jason's suggestion that you should clean your build directory
>> before
>>> trying to rebuild Xastir on a newly upgraded system.
>>> 
>>> I do not recommend that you run autoupdate, just let autoconf complain
>> about
>>> the obsolete uses for now.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:19:02AM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron
>> collision of the <godfreja at gmail.com> flavor, containing:
>>>> Hello.
>>>> 
>>>> I was able to build xastir on 11.3.1, so this may be local issue. My
>> first
>>>> suggestion is doing a "make clean" and then rebuilding. From your
>> output it
>>>> looks like you may have old .o files left over from a previous build.
>>>> 
>>>> If that doesn't work, my next suggestion would be to see if you have
>> up to
>>>> date X 11 libraries installed (sounds like you get them from macports.)
>>>> 
>>>> 73
>>>> - Jason
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 8:38 AM f1mhv <f1mhv at free.fr> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Group,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have updated the laptop to ?? Big Sur ?? OSX 10.3.1  including
>> Xcode tools
>>>>> and Macports. I tried du rebuild from source following git pull and
>> here is
>>>>> what i got:
>>>>> 
>>>>> " Xastir % bash bootstrap.sh
>>>>>    6) Removing autom4te.cache directory...
>>>>>    5) Running aclocal...
>>>>>    4) Running autoheader...
>>>>>    3) Running autoconf...
>>>>> configure.ac:50: warning: The macro `AC_GNU_SOURCE' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:50: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/specific.m4:312: AC_GNU_SOURCE is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:50: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:71: warning: The macro `AC_LANG_C' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:71: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/c.m4:72: AC_LANG_C is expanded from...
>>>>> acinclude.m4:568: ACX_PTHREAD is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:71: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:71: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_LINK' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:71: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2920: AC_TRY_LINK is expanded from...
>>>>> acinclude.m4:568: ACX_PTHREAD is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:71: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:74: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_COMPILE' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:74: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2847: AC_TRY_COMPILE is expanded from...
>>>>> acinclude.m4:51: XASTIR_COMPILER_FLAGS is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:74: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:289: warning: The macro `AC_HEADER_STDC' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:289: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/headers.m4:704: AC_HEADER_STDC is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:289: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:303: warning: The macro `AC_HEADER_TIME' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:303: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/headers.m4:743: AC_HEADER_TIME is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:303: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:305: warning: The macro `AC_TYPE_SIGNAL' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:305: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/types.m4:776: AC_TYPE_SIGNAL is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:305: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:326: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_COMPILE' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:326: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2847: AC_TRY_COMPILE is expanded from...
>>>>> acinclude.m4:559: AC_CHECK_GMTOFF is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:326: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:582: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_COMPILE' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:582: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2847: AC_TRY_COMPILE is expanded from...
>>>>> acinclude.m4:1032: XASTIR_BERKELEY_DB_CHK is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:582: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:582: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_LINK' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:582: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2920: AC_TRY_LINK is expanded from...
>>>>> acinclude.m4:937: XASTIR_BERKELEY_DB_CHK_LIB is expanded from...
>>>>> lib/m4sugar/m4sh.m4:699: AS_IF is expanded from...
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2823: _AC_COMPILE_IFELSE is expanded
>> from...
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2839: AC_COMPILE_IFELSE is expanded from...
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2847: AC_TRY_COMPILE is expanded from...
>>>>> acinclude.m4:1032: XASTIR_BERKELEY_DB_CHK is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:582: the top level
>>>>> configure.ac:645: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_LINK' is obsolete.
>>>>> configure.ac:645: You should run autoupdate.
>>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2920: AC_TRY_LINK is expanded from...
>>>>> configure.ac:645: the top level
>>>>>    2) Running automake...
>>>>>    1) Generating derived language files.....
>>>>> Bootstrap complete.
>>>>> ??
>>>>> 
>>>>> If running ?? autoupdate ??:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Xastir % autoupdate
>>>>> configure.ac:289: warning: The preprocessor macro `STDC_HEADERS' is
>>>>> obsolete.
>>>>>  Except in unusual embedded environments, you can safely include all
>>>>>  ISO C90 headers unconditionally.
>>>>> configure.ac:303: warning: Update your code to rely only on
>>>>> HAVE_SYS_TIME_H,
>>>>> then remove this warning and the obsolete code below it.
>>>>> All current systems provide time.h; it need not be checked for.
>>>>> Not all systems provide sys/time.h, but those that do, all allow
>>>>> you to include it and time.h simultaneously.
>>>>> configure.ac:305: warning: your code may safely assume C89
>> semantics that
>>>>> RETSIGTYPE is void.
>>>>> Remove this warning and the `AC_CACHE_CHECK' when you adjust the
>> code.
>>>>> "
>>>>> 
>>>>> then: "../configure --prefix=/opt/local
>>>>> --with-bdb-incdir=/opt/local/include/db60/
>>>>> --with-bdb-libdir=/opt/local/lib/db60/
>>>>> 
>>>>> gives:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "checking for a BSD-compatible install... /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c
>>>>> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
>>>>> checking for a race-free mkdir -p... /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p
>>>>> checking for gawk... gawk
>>>>> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
>>>>> checking whether make supports nested variables... yes
>>>>> checking whether make supports nested variables... (cached) yes
>>>>> 
>>>>> Configuring xastir 2.1.7
>>>>> 
>>>>> checking build system type... x86_64-apple-darwin20.4.0
>>>>> checking host system type... x86_64-apple-darwin20.4.0
>>>>> checking whether make supports the include directive... yes (GNU
>> style)
>>>>> checking for gcc... gcc
>>>>> checking whether the C compiler works... yes
>>>>> checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
>>>>> checking for suffix of executables...
>>>>> checking whether we are cross compiling... no
>>>>> checking for suffix of object files... o
>>>>> checking whether the compiler supports GNU C... yes
>>>>> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
>>>>> checking for gcc option to enable C11 features... none needed
>>>>> checking whether gcc understands -c and -o together... yes
>>>>> checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
>>>>> checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
>>>>> checking for stdio.h... yes
>>>>> checking for stdlib.h... yes
>>>>> checking for string.h... yes
>>>>> checking for inttypes.h... yes
>>>>> checking for stdint.h... yes
>>>>> checking for strings.h... yes
>>>>> checking for sys/stat.h... yes
>>>>> checking for sys/types.h... yes
>>>>> checking for unistd.h... yes
>>>>> checking for wchar.h... yes
>>>>> checking for minix/config.h... no
>>>>> checking for sys/time.h... yes
>>>>> checking for vfork.h... no
>>>>> checking for sys/param.h... yes
>>>>> checking whether it is safe to define __EXTENSIONS__... yes
>>>>> checking whether _XOPEN_SOURCE should be defined... no
>>>>> checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
>>>>> checking whether the compiler supports GNU C... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for gcc option to enable C11 features... (cached) none
>> needed
>>>>> checking whether gcc understands -c and -o together... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
>>>>> checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
>>>>> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
>>>>> checking whether ln -s works... yes
>>>>> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for gawk... (cached) gawk
>>>>> checking for ranlib... ranlib
>>>>> checking for devices... found none and none
>>>>> checking for search paths... done
>>>>> checking for the pthreads library -lpthreads... no
>>>>> checking whether pthreads work without any flags... yes
>>>>> checking for joinable pthread attribute... PTHREAD_CREATE_JOINABLE
>>>>> checking if more special flags are required for pthreads... no
>>>>> checking for cc_r... gcc
>>>>> checking whether compiler accepts -Wno-unused-parameter... yes
>>>>> checking for compiler flags... using -g -O2 -pipe -W -Wall
>> -Wpointer-arith
>>>>> -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-parameter
>>>>> checking for system... Darwin
>>>>> checking for gm... /opt/local/bin/gm
>>>>> checking for /usr/bin/gm.exe... no
>>>>> checking for lpr... /usr/bin/lpr
>>>>> checking for gv... no
>>>>> checking for festival... no
>>>>> checking for gpsman... no
>>>>> checking for X... libraries , headers
>>>>> checking for gethostbyname... yes
>>>>> checking for connect... yes
>>>>> checking for remove... yes
>>>>> checking for shmat... yes
>>>>> checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
>>>>> checking for library containing tan... none required
>>>>> checking for XextAddDisplay in -lXext... yes
>>>>> checking for XtDisplay in -lXt... yes
>>>>> checking for XmTextFindString in -lXm... yes
>>>>> checking for sed... /usr/bin/sed
>>>>> checking for mv... /bin/mv
>>>>> checking for xfontsel... /opt/X11/bin/xfontsel
>>>>> checking for curl/curl.h... yes
>>>>> checking for curl_global_init in -lcurl... yes
>>>>> checking for main in -lcompat... no
>>>>> checking for sched_yield in -lrt... no
>>>>> checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
>>>>> checking for Motif headers... in default path
>>>>> checking for Motif libraries... in default path
>>>>> checking for size_t... yes
>>>>> checking for working alloca.h... yes
>>>>> checking for alloca... yes
>>>>> checking for dirent.h that defines DIR... yes
>>>>> checking for library containing opendir... none required
>>>>> checking for grep that handles long lines and -e...
>> /opt/local/bin/ggrep
>>>>> checking for egrep... /opt/local/bin/ggrep -E
>>>>> checking for sys/wait.h that is POSIX.1 compatible... yes
>>>>> checking for argz.h... no
>>>>> checking for arpa/inet.h... yes
>>>>> checking for fcntl.h... yes
>>>>> checking for limits.h... yes
>>>>> checking for locale.h... yes
>>>>> checking for malloc.h... no
>>>>> checking for math.h... yes
>>>>> checking for netdb.h... yes
>>>>> checking for netinet/in.h... yes
>>>>> checking for nl_types.h... yes
>>>>> checking for stdarg.h... yes
>>>>> checking for stddef.h... yes
>>>>> checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for string.h... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for strings.h... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for sys/file.h... yes
>>>>> checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes
>>>>> checking for sys/param.h... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for sys/socket.h... yes
>>>>> checking for sys/time.h... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for signal.h... yes
>>>>> checking for termios.h... yes
>>>>> checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes
>>>>> checking for uid_t in sys/types.h... yes
>>>>> checking for inline... inline
>>>>> checking for pid_t... yes
>>>>> checking for size_t... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking return type of signal handlers... void
>>>>> checking whether struct tm is in sys/time.h or time.h... time.h
>>>>> checking for gcc options needed to detect all undeclared
>> functions... none
>>>>> needed
>>>>> checking for struct tm.tm_zone... yes
>>>>> checking for socklen_t... yes
>>>>> checking for sighandler_t... no
>>>>> checking for sig_t... yes
>>>>> checking for sigjmp_buf... yes
>>>>> checking for gmtoff in struct tm... yes
>>>>> checking for fork... yes
>>>>> checking for vfork... yes
>>>>> checking for alarm... yes
>>>>> checking for getpagesize... yes
>>>>> checking for working fork... yes
>>>>> checking for working vfork... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no
>>>>> checking whether getpgrp requires zero arguments... yes
>>>>> checking for GNU libc compatible malloc... yes
>>>>> checking for working mktime... no
>>>>> checking for working mmap... yes
>>>>> checking whether lstat correctly handles trailing slash... no
>>>>> checking whether stat accepts an empty string... no
>>>>> checking for strftime... yes
>>>>> checking for working strtod... yes
>>>>> checking for __argz_count... no
>>>>> checking for __argz_next... no
>>>>> checking for __argz_stringify... no
>>>>> checking for alarm... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for dcgettext... no
>>>>> checking for getcwd... yes
>>>>> checking for getpgrp... yes
>>>>> checking for gethostbyname... (cached) yes
>>>>> checking for gethostname... yes
>>>>> checking for gettimeofday... yes
>>>>> checking for getwd... yes
>>>>> checking for inet_ntoa... yes
>>>>> checking for memmove... yes
>>>>> checking for mempcpy... no
>>>>> checking for memset... yes
>>>>> checking for mkdir... yes
>>>>> checking for munmap... yes
>>>>> checking for pow... yes
>>>>> checking for putenv... yes
>>>>> checking for select... yes
>>>>> checking for setenv... yes
>>>>> checking for setlocale... yes
>>>>> checking for settimeofday... yes
>>>>> checking for signal... yes
>>>>> checking for sigignore... yes
>>>>> checking for snprintf... yes
>>>>> checking for socket... yes
>>>>> checking for sqrt... yes
>>>>> checking for stpcpy... yes
>>>>> checking for strcasecmp... yes
>>>>> checking for strchr... yes
>>>>> checking for strdup... yes
>>>>> checking for strerror... yes
>>>>> checking for strncasecmp... yes
>>>>> checking for strpbrk... yes
>>>>> checking for strptime... yes
>>>>> checking for strrchr... yes
>>>>> checking for strstr... yes
>>>>> checking for strtof... yes
>>>>> checking for strtol... yes
>>>>> checking for strtoul... yes
>>>>> checking for tzset... yes
>>>>> checking for vsnprintf... yes
>>>>> checking for pthread_mutexattr_setkind_np... no
>>>>> checking for pthread_mutexattr_settype... yes
>>>>> checking for strndup... yes
>>>>> checking for roundf... yes
>>>>> checking for proj_create_crs_to_crs in -lproj... no
>>>>> checking for pj_init in -lproj... no
>>>>> checking for shapefil.h... yes
>>>>> checking for DBFOpen in -lshp... yes
>>>>> checking for pcre.h... yes
>>>>> checking for pcre_compile in -lpcre... yes
>>>>> checking for X11/xpm.h... yes
>>>>> checking for library containing XpmWriteFileFromPixmap... -lXpm
>>>>> *** Warning: geotiff requires libproj.
>>>>> checking for netax25/ax25.h... no
>>>>> checking if db.h is exists and is usable... yes
>>>>> checking for a library containing db_create... -ldb
>>>>> checking for GraphicsMagick-config...
>> /opt/local/bin/GraphicsMagick-config
>>>>> checking for magick/api.h... yes
>>>>> checking for WriteImage in -lGraphicsMagick... yes
>>>>> checking that generated files are newer than configure... done
>>>>> configure: creating ./config.status
>>>>> config.status: creating Makefile
>>>>> config.status: creating callpass/Makefile
>>>>> config.status: creating config/Makefile
>>>>> config.status: creating help/Makefile
>>>>> config.status: creating scripts/Makefile
>>>>> config.status: creating src/Makefile
>>>>> config.status: creating src/rtree/Makefile
>>>>> config.status: creating symbols/Makefile
>>>>> config.status: creating xastir.spec
>>>>> config.status: creating xastir-min.spec
>>>>> config.status: creating xastir-lsb.spec
>>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-BOMdata
>>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-NWSdata
>>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-gnis
>>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-pop
>>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-fcc-rac.pl
>>>>> config.status: creating scripts/icontable.pl
>>>>> config.status: creating config.h
>>>>> config.status: config.h is unchanged
>>>>> config.status: executing depfiles commands
>>>>> ===========================================
>>>>> 
>>>>> xastir 2.1.7 has been configured to use the following
>>>>> options and external libraries:
>>>>> 
>>>>> MINIMUM OPTIONS:
>>>>>  ShapeLib (Vector maps) .................... : yes
>>>>> 
>>>>> RECOMMENDED OPTIONS:
>>>>>  Xpm / Snapshots ........................... : yes
>>>>> -n   GraphicsMagick/ImageMagick (Raster maps) .. :
>>>>> yes (GraphicsMagick)
>>>>>  pcre (Shapefile customization) ............ : yes
>>>>>  Berkeley DB map caching-Raster map speedups : yes
>>>>>  internet map retrieval .................... : yes (libcurl)
>>>>> 
>>>>> FOR THE ADVENTUROUS:
>>>>>  AX25 (Linux Kernel I/O Drivers) ........... : no
>>>>>  libproj (USGS Topos & Aerial Photos) ...... : no
>>>>>  GeoTiff (USGS Topos & Aerial Photos) ...... : no
>>>>>  Festival (Text-to-speech) ................. : no
>>>>>  GPSMan/gpsmanshp (GPS downloads) .......... : no
>>>>> 
>>>>> xastir will be installed in /opt/local/bin.
>>>>> Type 'make' to build Xastir (Use 'gmake' instead on some systems).
>>>>> ??
>>>>> 
>>>>> then: ?? make ??
>>>>> 
>>>>> "/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
>> all-recursive
>>>>> Making all in src
>>>>> Making all in rtree
>>>>> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
>>>>> rm -f compiledate.c compiledate.o
>>>>> echo 'char gitstring[] = "'"`../../scripts/XastirGitStamp.sh
>> ../..`"'";'
>>>>>>> compiledate.c
>>>>>  CC       compiledate.o
>>>>>  GEN      xastir
>>>>> ld: warning: directory not found for option '-L/sw/lib'
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXt.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libX11.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libjasper.dylib) was built for
>> newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libtiff.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libpng16.dylib) was built for
>> newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libbz2.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libxml2.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libz.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXext.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libSM.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libICE.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libcurl.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> Making all in config
>>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
>>>>> Making all in help
>>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
>>>>> Making all in scripts
>>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
>>>>> Making all in symbols
>>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
>>>>> Making all in callpass
>>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
>>>>> ??
>>>>> 
>>>>> then "sudo make install":
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Making install in src
>>>>> Making install in rtree
>>>>> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
>>>>> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
>>>>> rm -f compiledate.c compiledate.o
>>>>> echo 'char gitstring[] = "'"`../../scripts/XastirGitStamp.sh
>> ../..`"'";'
>>>>>>> compiledate.c
>>>>>  CC       compiledate.o
>>>>>  GEN      xastir
>>>>> ld: warning: directory not found for option '-L/sw/lib'
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXt.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libX11.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libjasper.dylib) was built for
>> newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libpng16.dylib) was built for
>> newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libbz2.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libxml2.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libz.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libtiff.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXext.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libSM.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libICE.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libcurl.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> rm -f compiledate.c compiledate.o
>>>>> echo 'char gitstring[] = "'"`../../scripts/XastirGitStamp.sh
>> ../..`"'";'
>>>>>>> compiledate.c
>>>>>  CC       compiledate.o
>>>>>  GEN      xastir
>>>>> ld: warning: directory not found for option '-L/sw/lib'
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXt.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libtiff.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libX11.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libjasper.dylib) was built for
>> newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libpng16.dylib) was built for
>> newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libbz2.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libz.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libxml2.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXext.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libSM.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libICE.dylib) was built for newer
>> macOS
>>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libcurl.dylib) was built for newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/bin'
>>>>>  /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c xastir xastir_udp_client testdbfawk
>>>>> '/opt/local/bin'
>>>>> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
>>>>> Making install in config
>>>>> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
>> install-exec-hook
>>>>> rm -f /opt/local/share/xastir/config/nwsfz_ddmmyy.dbfawk
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/config'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../config/language-Dutch.sys
>>>>> ../../config/language-English.sys ../../config/language-French.sys
>>>>> ../../config/language-German.sys ../../config/language-Italian.sys
>>>>> ../../config/language-Portuguese.sys
>> ../../config/language-Spanish.sys
>>>>> ../../config/language-ElmerFudd.sys
>> ../../config/language-MuppetsChef.sys
>>>>> ../../config/language-OldeEnglish.sys
>> ../../config/language-PigLatin.sys
>>>>> ../../config/language-PirateEnglish.sys ../../config/xastir.rgb
>>>>> ../../config/gps_wpt.dbfawk ../../config/24kgrid.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/stored_track.dbfawk ../../config/tgr2shp.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tgr2shppoly.dbfawk ../../config/tgr2shppoly_2006.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tgrcty.dbfawk ../../config/tgrkgl.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tgrlk.dbfawk ../../config/tgrlpt.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tgrlpy.dbfawk ../../config/tgrplc00.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tgrwat.dbfawk ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_09.dbfawk
>> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_09b.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_10.dbfawk
>> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_10a.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_13.dbfawk ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_15.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsfz_ddmmyy_19.dbfawk ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy_09.dbfawk ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy_11.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy_16.dbfawk ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy_17.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsmzoddmmyy.dbfawk '/opt/local/share/xastir/config'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../config/nwsozddmmyy.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsozddmmyy_09.dbfawk ../../config/nwsozddmmyy_14.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsozddmmyy_14b.dbfawk ../../config/nwsozddap12.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy.dbfawk ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_09.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_10.dbfawk ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_13.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_14.dbfawk
>> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_14a.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_17.dbfawk ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_20.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddjn12.dbfawk ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_09.dbfawk ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_10.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_10b.dbfawk
>> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_10c.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_11.dbfawk ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_13.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_19.dbfawk ../../config/nwsz1ddmmyy.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwszoddmmyy.dbfawk ../../config/nwshzddmmyy.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/nwshzddmmyy_old14.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_administrative.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_highway.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_natural.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_poi.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_water_and_coastline.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/OSM_geofabrik_roads.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/OSM_geofabrik_waterways.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/predefined_EVENT.sys ../../config/predefined_SAR.sys
>>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_aiannh.dbfawk ../../config/tl_2009_aits.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_arealm.dbfawk
>> ../../config/tl_2009_areawater.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_county.dbfawk '/opt/local/share/xastir/config'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../config/tl_2009_cousub.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_edges.dbfawk ../../config/tl_2009_mil.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_nn_county.dbfawk
>> ../../config/tl_2009_pointlm.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_zcta5.dbfawk ../../config/tnc-startup.aea
>>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.d700 ../../config/tnc-startup.d72_d710
>>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.kam ../../config/tnc-startup.kpc2
>>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.kpc3 ../../config/tnc-startup.null
>>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.paccomm ../../config/tnc-startup.pico
>>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.sys ../../config/tnc-startup.thd7
>>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.tnc2 ../../config/tnc-startup.tnc2-ui
>>>>> ../../config/tnc-stop.d700 ../../config/tnc-stop.d72_d710
>>>>> ../../config/tnc-stop.sys ../../config/tnc-stop.thd7
>>>>> ../../config/tnc-stop.tnc2-ui ../../config/areawater.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/arealm.dbfawk ../../config/tabblock.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/cousub.dbfawk ../../config/cousub00.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/edge.dbfawk ../../config/featnames.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/pointlm.dbfawk ../../config/gfe_public_weather.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/gfe_metro_areas.dbfawk
>> ../../config/gfe_fire_weather.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/gfe_coastal_waters_warnings.dbfawk
>>>>> ../../config/gfe_coastal_waters.dbfawk
>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/config'
>>>>> Making install in help
>>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/help'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../help/help-Dutch.dat
>>>>> ../../help/help-English.dat ../../help/help-French.dat
>>>>> ../../help/help-German.dat ../../help/help-Italian.dat
>>>>> ../../help/help-Portuguese.dat ../../help/help-Spanish.dat
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/help'
>>>>> Making install in scripts
>>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/scripts'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../scripts/ads-b.pl
>> ../../scripts/
>>>>> ais.pl ../../scripts/ais_pp.pl ../../scripts/Coordinate.pm
>> ../../scripts/
>>>>> coord-convert.pl ../../scripts/geopdf2gtiff.pl get-BOMdata
>> get-fcc-rac.pl
>>>>> get-gnis get-pop get-NWSdata ../../scripts/gpx2shape icontable.pl
>>>>> ../../scripts/inf2geo.pl ../../scripts/kiss-off.pl
>>>>> ../../scripts/langElmerFudd.pl ../../scripts/langMuppetsChef.pl
>>>>> ../../scripts/langOldeEnglish.pl ../../scripts/langPigLatin.pl
>>>>> ../../scripts/langPirateEnglish.pl ../../scripts/mapblast2geo.pl
>>>>> ../../scripts/mapfgd.pl ../../scripts/object2shp.pl ../../scripts/
>>>>> overlay.pl ../../scripts/ozi2geo.pl ../../scripts/permutations.pl
>>>>> ../../scripts/pos2shp.pl ../../scripts/ridge_radar.pl ../../scripts/
>>>>> slideshow.pl ../../scripts/split_gnis.bash ../../scripts/
>> split_gnis.pl
>>>>> ../../scripts/test_coord.pl ../../scripts/toporama50k.pl
>> ../../scripts/
>>>>> toporama250k.pl ../../scripts/track-get.pl ../../scripts/
>>>>> update_langfile.pl ../../scripts/waypoint-get.pl ../../scripts/
>> wms.pl
>>>>> ../../scripts/wxnowsrv.pl '/opt/local/share/xastir/scripts'
>>>>> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
>> install-data-hook
>>>>> cd /opt/local/share/xastir/scripts && \
>>>>>        chmod a+x *.pl get-* gpx2* *.bash
>>>>> Making install in symbols
>>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/symbols'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../symbols/symbols.dat
>>>>> ../../symbols/2x2.xbm ../../symbols/25pct.xbm ../../symbols/13pct.xbm
>>>>> ../../symbols/alert.xbm ../../symbols/flood.xbm
>> ../../symbols/red_flag.xbm
>>>>> ../../symbols/snow.xbm ../../symbols/torndo.xbm
>> ../../symbols/wind.xbm
>>>>> ../../symbols/winter_storm.xbm ../../symbols/winter_weather.xbm
>>>>> ../../symbols/icon.png '/opt/local/share/xastir/symbols'
>>>>> Making install in callpass
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/bin'
>>>>>  /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c callpass '/opt/local/bin'
>>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
>>>>> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
>> install-exec-hook
>>>>> rm -rf /opt/local/share/xastir/doc
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/Counties'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/Counties'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/doc/xastir'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../AUTHORS ../FAQ ../ChangeLog
>>>>> ../LICENSE ../README ../README.GIT ../README.CYGWIN ../README.MAPS
>>>>> ../README.sudo ../COPYING ../INSTALL ../UPGRADE
>> ../README.Getting-Started
>>>>> ../README.OSM_maps ../CONTRIBUTING.md ../COPYING.LIB.LESSTIF
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/doc/xastir'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/fcc'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/fcc'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/
>>>>> geogratis.gc.ca'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../National.geo ../Regional.geo
>>>>> ../Sub_national.geo ../Sub_regional.geo
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/geogratis.gc.ca'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/GNIS'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/GNIS'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/GPS'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/GPS'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/man/man1'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../xastir.1 ../callpass.1
>>>>> ../xastir_udp_client.1 ../testdbfawk.1 '/opt/local/share/man/man1'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../worldhi.map
>>>>> ../CC_OpenStreetMap_logo.png ../CC_OpenStreetMap_txt.png
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/
>>>>> nationalmap.gov'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../WMS_USGS_Hydrography.geo
>>>>> ../WMS_USGS_ImageryOnly.geo ../WMS_USGS_ImageryTopo.geo
>>>>> ../WMS_USGS_ShadedReliefOnly.geo ../WMS_USGS_Topo.geo
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/nationalmap.gov'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 OSM_tiled_cycle.geo
>>>>> OSM_tiled_mapnik.geo OSM_tiled_fosm.geo ../USTigermap.geo
>>>>> ../USTigermapBorders.geo '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/sounds'
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
>>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/sounds'
>>>>> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
>> install-data-hook
>>>>> cd /opt/local/share/xastir/maps && \
>>>>>        rm -f CC_OpenStreetMap.png && \
>>>>>        ln -s CC_OpenStreetMap_logo.png CC_OpenStreetMap.png
>>>>> ??
>>>>> 
>>>>> then ?? xastir ??:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Found pid file: /Users/xxx/.xastir/xastir.pid
>>>>> Other Xastir process, pid: 51860 does not appear be running.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Built-in map types:
>>>>>      gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
>>>>>       pop   USGS GNIS Datapoints w/population
>>>>>       map   APRSdos Maps
>>>>>       map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
>>>>> 
>>>>> Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:
>>>>>       geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many
>> formats
>>>>> allowed)
>>>>>       geo   URL (Internet maps via libcurl library)
>>>>>       geo   URL (OpenStreetMaps via libcurl library
>>>>>                  Copyright OpenStreetMap and contributors, CC-BY-SA)
>>>>>       shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
>>>>>       xpm   X Pixmap Maps (XPM library)
>>>>> No protocol specified
>>>>> Error: Can't open display: :0
>>>>> % UDP_Server process died.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then terminal window is stuck, must got ctrl+C to exit
>>>>> 
>>>>> Trying ?? make clean ?? doesn???t sorted-out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> could ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXt.dylib) was built for
>> newer
>>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
>>>>> 
>>>>> be the issue?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73 de Cyril - DF1CHB - F1MHV
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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