From rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 20 07:40:00 2022
From: rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com (RileyC)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 10:40:00 -0400
Subject: [Xastir] Format for .geo files
Message-ID: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>

I'm working on getting USGS offline maps, and I'm having problems bringing
them up in Xastir.  Is there a format documented for the indexing of the
maps?

The link in the documentation is broken:
http://data.geocomm.com/quadindex/

I've got the USGS index files that point to the Geopdfs, and can convert
them so they will work like the link mentions, but I'm unsure how to format
them.

If I can get it working I can share my script.

Thanks!

Riley
Kf4emz

From russo at bogodyn.org  Wed Apr 20 08:09:41 2022
From: russo at bogodyn.org (Tom Russo)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 09:09:41 -0600
Subject: [Xastir] Format for .geo files
In-Reply-To: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>

".geo" files are not for referencing geopdfs, they're for georeferencing
images in PNG or JPG format (like a scanned image or something).

Geopdfs are newer than any map type coded into Xastir, and there is no
native support for them at all.

You can, however, convert geopdfs to GeoTIFF format, and they'll work just fine.
Since they have georeferencing information in the file already, you need no
other additional files to do this.

However, you do have to convert the file using a script called "geopdf2gtiff.pl"
in the Xastir "scripts" directory, and this script requires that you have
GDAL installed (it uses gdalinfo, gdalwarp, and the "rgb2pct.py" script 
provided by GDAL).


On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:40:00AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> flavor, containing:
> I'm working on getting USGS offline maps, and I'm having problems bringing
> them up in Xastir.  Is there a format documented for the indexing of the
> maps?
> 
> The link in the documentation is broken:
> http://data.geocomm.com/quadindex/
> 
> I've got the USGS index files that point to the Geopdfs, and can convert
> them so they will work like the link mentions, but I'm unsure how to format
> them.
> 
> If I can get it working I can share my script.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Riley
> Kf4emz
> _______________________________________________
> Xastir mailing list
> Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir

-- 
Tom Russo    KM5VY
Tijeras, NM  

 echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] [n-z][a-m]


From rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 20 08:55:27 2022
From: rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com (RileyC)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:55:27 -0400
Subject: [Xastir] Format for .geo files
In-Reply-To: <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>
References: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>
 <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>
Message-ID: <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks!  Yes I've done that and converted a few.  When I point Xastir to my
Offline directory with the converted files, there are no maps.

The documentation reads like I need a type of index file.  I got the USGS
csv indexes that match coordinates to the image files.  I'm looking for the
needed formatting for that index file.  That's what I'm naively calling a
.geo file.

I can convert the USGS csv to the correct format, but I want to know what
that format is.

Thanks!

Riley

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 11:10 Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org> wrote:

> ".geo" files are not for referencing geopdfs, they're for georeferencing
> images in PNG or JPG format (like a scanned image or something).
>
> Geopdfs are newer than any map type coded into Xastir, and there is no
> native support for them at all.
>
> You can, however, convert geopdfs to GeoTIFF format, and they'll work just
> fine.
> Since they have georeferencing information in the file already, you need no
> other additional files to do this.
>
> However, you do have to convert the file using a script called "
> geopdf2gtiff.pl"
> in the Xastir "scripts" directory, and this script requires that you have
> GDAL installed (it uses gdalinfo, gdalwarp, and the "rgb2pct.py" script
> provided by GDAL).
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:40:00AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
> collision of the <rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> flavor, containing:
> > I'm working on getting USGS offline maps, and I'm having problems
> bringing
> > them up in Xastir.  Is there a format documented for the indexing of the
> > maps?
> >
> > The link in the documentation is broken:
> > http://data.geocomm.com/quadindex/
> >
> > I've got the USGS index files that point to the Geopdfs, and can convert
> > them so they will work like the link mentions, but I'm unsure how to
> format
> > them.
> >
> > If I can get it working I can share my script.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Riley
> > Kf4emz
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xastir mailing list
> > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
>
> --
> Tom Russo    KM5VY
> Tijeras, NM
>
>  echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> [n-z][a-m]
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xastir mailing list
> Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
>

From rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 20 08:55:27 2022
From: rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com (RileyC)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:55:27 -0400
Subject: [Xastir] Format for .geo files
In-Reply-To: <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>
References: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>
 <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>
Message-ID: <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks!  Yes I've done that and converted a few.  When I point Xastir to my
Offline directory with the converted files, there are no maps.

The documentation reads like I need a type of index file.  I got the USGS
csv indexes that match coordinates to the image files.  I'm looking for the
needed formatting for that index file.  That's what I'm naively calling a
.geo file.

I can convert the USGS csv to the correct format, but I want to know what
that format is.

Thanks!

Riley

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 11:10 Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org> wrote:

> ".geo" files are not for referencing geopdfs, they're for georeferencing
> images in PNG or JPG format (like a scanned image or something).
>
> Geopdfs are newer than any map type coded into Xastir, and there is no
> native support for them at all.
>
> You can, however, convert geopdfs to GeoTIFF format, and they'll work just
> fine.
> Since they have georeferencing information in the file already, you need no
> other additional files to do this.
>
> However, you do have to convert the file using a script called "
> geopdf2gtiff.pl"
> in the Xastir "scripts" directory, and this script requires that you have
> GDAL installed (it uses gdalinfo, gdalwarp, and the "rgb2pct.py" script
> provided by GDAL).
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:40:00AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
> collision of the <rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> flavor, containing:
> > I'm working on getting USGS offline maps, and I'm having problems
> bringing
> > them up in Xastir.  Is there a format documented for the indexing of the
> > maps?
> >
> > The link in the documentation is broken:
> > http://data.geocomm.com/quadindex/
> >
> > I've got the USGS index files that point to the Geopdfs, and can convert
> > them so they will work like the link mentions, but I'm unsure how to
> format
> > them.
> >
> > If I can get it working I can share my script.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Riley
> > Kf4emz
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xastir mailing list
> > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
>
> --
> Tom Russo    KM5VY
> Tijeras, NM
>
>  echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> [n-z][a-m]
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xastir mailing list
> Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
>

From russo at bogodyn.org  Wed Apr 20 09:02:40 2022
From: russo at bogodyn.org (Tom Russo)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 10:02:40 -0600
Subject: [Xastir] Format for .geo files
In-Reply-To: <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>
 <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>
 <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <YmAuoOkBwWhP8+LA@bogodyn.org>

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 11:55:27AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> flavor, containing:
> Thanks!  Yes I've done that and converted a few.  When I point Xastir to my
> Offline directory with the converted files, there are no maps.
> 
> The documentation reads like I need a type of index file.  I got the USGS
> csv indexes that match coordinates to the image files.  I'm looking for the
> needed formatting for that index file.  That's what I'm naively calling a
> .geo file.

No, there should be no need for an additional index file.

I have a whole directory of converted GeoPDFs in GeoTIFF format that work
exactly as well as the old USGS geotiff files that geopdf2gtiff.pl is meant
to emulate.

Is your Offline directory reindexed?  Does Xastir display an error messages
on the console?  Did you convert with geopdf2gtiff.pl?

And do you in fact have Xastir built to support geotiff files?

If you run "gdalinfo" on one of your converted files, what do you see?  It
should information about how the converted file is using WGS84 geographic
coordinates, and other information like the fact that it's using a color
table and not RGB.  For example:

Driver: GTiff/GeoTIFF
Files: NM_Escabosa_20110301_TM_geo.tif
Size is 3140, 3140
Coordinate System is:
GEOGCRS["WGS 84",
    DATUM["World Geodetic System 1984",
        ELLIPSOID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563,
            LENGTHUNIT["metre",1]]],
    PRIMEM["Greenwich",0,
        ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],
    CS[ellipsoidal,2],
        AXIS["geodetic latitude (Lat)",north,
            ORDER[1],
            ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],
        AXIS["geodetic longitude (Lon)",east,
            ORDER[2],
            ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],
    ID["EPSG",4326]]
Data axis to CRS axis mapping: 2,1
Origin = (-106.375000000000000,34.999999999999993)
Pixel Size = (0.000039808917197,-0.000039808917197)
Metadata:
  AREA_OR_POINT=Area
Image Structure Metadata:
  INTERLEAVE=BAND
Corner Coordinates:
Upper Left  (-106.3750000,  35.0000000) (106d22'30.00"W, 35d 0' 0.00"N)
Lower Left  (-106.3750000,  34.8750000) (106d22'30.00"W, 34d52'30.00"N)
Upper Right (-106.2500000,  35.0000000) (106d15' 0.00"W, 35d 0' 0.00"N)
Lower Right (-106.2500000,  34.8750000) (106d15' 0.00"W, 34d52'30.00"N)
Center      (-106.3125000,  34.9375000) (106d18'45.00"W, 34d56'15.00"N)
Band 1 Block=3140x2 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Palette
  Color Table (RGB with 256 entries)
    0: 112,120,120,255
[...]


All that information in the geotiff is all that is needed to get Xastir to 
display it properly.

 

> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 11:10 Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org> wrote:
> 
> > ".geo" files are not for referencing geopdfs, they're for georeferencing
> > images in PNG or JPG format (like a scanned image or something).
> >
> > Geopdfs are newer than any map type coded into Xastir, and there is no
> > native support for them at all.
> >
> > You can, however, convert geopdfs to GeoTIFF format, and they'll work just
> > fine.
> > Since they have georeferencing information in the file already, you need no
> > other additional files to do this.
> >
> > However, you do have to convert the file using a script called "
> > geopdf2gtiff.pl"
> > in the Xastir "scripts" directory, and this script requires that you have
> > GDAL installed (it uses gdalinfo, gdalwarp, and the "rgb2pct.py" script
> > provided by GDAL).
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:40:00AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
> > collision of the <rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> flavor, containing:
> > > I'm working on getting USGS offline maps, and I'm having problems
> > bringing
> > > them up in Xastir.  Is there a format documented for the indexing of the
> > > maps?
> > >
> > > The link in the documentation is broken:
> > > http://data.geocomm.com/quadindex/
> > >
> > > I've got the USGS index files that point to the Geopdfs, and can convert
> > > them so they will work like the link mentions, but I'm unsure how to
> > format
> > > them.
> > >
> > > If I can get it working I can share my script.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Riley
> > > Kf4emz
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Xastir mailing list
> > > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> >
> > --
> > Tom Russo    KM5VY
> > Tijeras, NM
> >
> >  echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> > [n-z][a-m]
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xastir mailing list
> > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> >

-- 
Tom Russo    KM5VY
Tijeras, NM  

 echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] [n-z][a-m]


From rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 20 09:04:57 2022
From: rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com (RileyC)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:04:57 -0400
Subject: [Xastir] Format for .geo files
In-Reply-To: <YmAuoOkBwWhP8+LA@bogodyn.org>
References: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>
 <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>
 <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <YmAuoOkBwWhP8+LA@bogodyn.org>
Message-ID: <CA+9yHaoy7gnOanPD0eKsb3ioXPe31ciCzS6JkVCX3d_caQa=oQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks!   I'll check those things!

Riley

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 12:02 Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 11:55:27AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
> collision of the <rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> flavor, containing:
> > Thanks!  Yes I've done that and converted a few.  When I point Xastir to
> my
> > Offline directory with the converted files, there are no maps.
> >
> > The documentation reads like I need a type of index file.  I got the USGS
> > csv indexes that match coordinates to the image files.  I'm looking for
> the
> > needed formatting for that index file.  That's what I'm naively calling a
> > .geo file.
>
> No, there should be no need for an additional index file.
>
> I have a whole directory of converted GeoPDFs in GeoTIFF format that work
> exactly as well as the old USGS geotiff files that geopdf2gtiff.pl is
> meant
> to emulate.
>
> Is your Offline directory reindexed?  Does Xastir display an error messages
> on the console?  Did you convert with geopdf2gtiff.pl?
>
> And do you in fact have Xastir built to support geotiff files?
>
> If you run "gdalinfo" on one of your converted files, what do you see?  It
> should information about how the converted file is using WGS84 geographic
> coordinates, and other information like the fact that it's using a color
> table and not RGB.  For example:
>
> Driver: GTiff/GeoTIFF
> Files: NM_Escabosa_20110301_TM_geo.tif
> Size is 3140, 3140
> Coordinate System is:
> GEOGCRS["WGS 84",
>     DATUM["World Geodetic System 1984",
>         ELLIPSOID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563,
>             LENGTHUNIT["metre",1]]],
>     PRIMEM["Greenwich",0,
>         ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],
>     CS[ellipsoidal,2],
>         AXIS["geodetic latitude (Lat)",north,
>             ORDER[1],
>             ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],
>         AXIS["geodetic longitude (Lon)",east,
>             ORDER[2],
>             ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],
>     ID["EPSG",4326]]
> Data axis to CRS axis mapping: 2,1
> Origin = (-106.375000000000000,34.999999999999993)
> Pixel Size = (0.000039808917197,-0.000039808917197)
> Metadata:
>   AREA_OR_POINT=Area
> Image Structure Metadata:
>   INTERLEAVE=BAND
> Corner Coordinates:
> Upper Left  (-106.3750000,  35.0000000) (106d22'30.00"W, 35d 0' 0.00"N)
> Lower Left  (-106.3750000,  34.8750000) (106d22'30.00"W, 34d52'30.00"N)
> Upper Right (-106.2500000,  35.0000000) (106d15' 0.00"W, 35d 0' 0.00"N)
> Lower Right (-106.2500000,  34.8750000) (106d15' 0.00"W, 34d52'30.00"N)
> Center      (-106.3125000,  34.9375000) (106d18'45.00"W, 34d56'15.00"N)
> Band 1 Block=3140x2 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Palette
>   Color Table (RGB with 256 entries)
>     0: 112,120,120,255
> [...]
>
>
> All that information in the geotiff is all that is needed to get Xastir to
> display it properly.
>
>
>
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 11:10 Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org> wrote:
> >
> > > ".geo" files are not for referencing geopdfs, they're for
> georeferencing
> > > images in PNG or JPG format (like a scanned image or something).
> > >
> > > Geopdfs are newer than any map type coded into Xastir, and there is no
> > > native support for them at all.
> > >
> > > You can, however, convert geopdfs to GeoTIFF format, and they'll work
> just
> > > fine.
> > > Since they have georeferencing information in the file already, you
> need no
> > > other additional files to do this.
> > >
> > > However, you do have to convert the file using a script called "
> > > geopdf2gtiff.pl"
> > > in the Xastir "scripts" directory, and this script requires that you
> have
> > > GDAL installed (it uses gdalinfo, gdalwarp, and the "rgb2pct.py" script
> > > provided by GDAL).
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:40:00AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
> > > collision of the <rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> flavor, containing:
> > > > I'm working on getting USGS offline maps, and I'm having problems
> > > bringing
> > > > them up in Xastir.  Is there a format documented for the indexing of
> the
> > > > maps?
> > > >
> > > > The link in the documentation is broken:
> > > > http://data.geocomm.com/quadindex/
> > > >
> > > > I've got the USGS index files that point to the Geopdfs, and can
> convert
> > > > them so they will work like the link mentions, but I'm unsure how to
> > > format
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > If I can get it working I can share my script.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Riley
> > > > Kf4emz
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Xastir mailing list
> > > > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom Russo    KM5VY
> > > Tijeras, NM
> > >
> > >  echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> > > [n-z][a-m]
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Xastir mailing list
> > > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> > >
>
> --
> Tom Russo    KM5VY
> Tijeras, NM
>
>  echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> [n-z][a-m]
>
>

From drussell at gpgsecure.com  Wed Apr 20 11:04:43 2022
From: drussell at gpgsecure.com (drussell at gpgsecure.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:04:43 +0000
Subject: [Xastir] Format for .geo files
In-Reply-To: <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>
 <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>
 <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9RQyoLU3SZUPig5lYQtfx28csUmK39i3slxq7RrUdr6qHJ0oBSOkMdQ7coPoQywbORZUdDFOrzuzIEHvYQGhBd1gaT3q2Fbp89lPPQwJDuM=@gpgsecure.com>

Don't know if you guys know it or not, but Don Russell passed away last year, April 6th. He and I were very close friends. I don't know how many of you knew him or talked to him much but I thought I'd reply to this list since he was huge into HAM radio. All of his email comes to me now, but if you want to remove his email address from the list you may do so.

I don't know anything about HAM radio but I always remember him saying he had a lot of gear (and I've seen it) and that "People depend on this stuff so let Dad know if I'm ever gone."... so I don't know if when we unplugged it all everyone who was using it was like what the heck is going on, but... if one of you were wondering, there's your reason why...

Big loss... I still have a hard time getting over it. He and I spoke weekly for 25 years...

Woody
woody at gpgsecure.com
woody at woodyhughes.com




------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, April 20th, 2022 at 11:55 AM, RileyC <rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> wrote:


>
>
> Thanks! Yes I've done that and converted a few. When I point Xastir to my
> Offline directory with the converted files, there are no maps.
>
> The documentation reads like I need a type of index file. I got the USGS
> csv indexes that match coordinates to the image files. I'm looking for the
> needed formatting for that index file. That's what I'm naively calling a
> .geo file.
>
> I can convert the USGS csv to the correct format, but I want to know what
> that format is.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Riley
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 11:10 Tom Russo russo at bogodyn.org wrote:
>
> > ".geo" files are not for referencing geopdfs, they're for georeferencing
> > images in PNG or JPG format (like a scanned image or something).
> >
> > Geopdfs are newer than any map type coded into Xastir, and there is no
> > native support for them at all.
> >
> > You can, however, convert geopdfs to GeoTIFF format, and they'll work just
> > fine.
> > Since they have georeferencing information in the file already, you need no
> > other additional files to do this.
> >
> > However, you do have to convert the file using a script called "
> > geopdf2gtiff.pl"
> > in the Xastir "scripts" directory, and this script requires that you have
> > GDAL installed (it uses gdalinfo, gdalwarp, and the "rgb2pct.py" script
> > provided by GDAL).
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:40:00AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
> > collision of the rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com flavor, containing:
> >
> > > I'm working on getting USGS offline maps, and I'm having problems
> > > bringing
> > > them up in Xastir. Is there a format documented for the indexing of the
> > > maps?
> > >
> > > The link in the documentation is broken:
> > > http://data.geocomm.com/quadindex/
> > >
> > > I've got the USGS index files that point to the Geopdfs, and can convert
> > > them so they will work like the link mentions, but I'm unsure how to
> > > format
> > > them.
> > >
> > > If I can get it working I can share my script.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Riley
> > > Kf4emz
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Xastir mailing list
> > > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> >
> > --
> > Tom Russo KM5VY
> > Tijeras, NM
> >
> > echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> > [n-z][a-m]
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xastir mailing list
> > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xastir mailing list
> Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir

From drussell at gpgsecure.com  Wed Apr 20 11:04:43 2022
From: drussell at gpgsecure.com (drussell at gpgsecure.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:04:43 +0000
Subject: [Xastir] Format for .geo files
In-Reply-To: <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>
 <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>
 <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9RQyoLU3SZUPig5lYQtfx28csUmK39i3slxq7RrUdr6qHJ0oBSOkMdQ7coPoQywbORZUdDFOrzuzIEHvYQGhBd1gaT3q2Fbp89lPPQwJDuM=@gpgsecure.com>

Don't know if you guys know it or not, but Don Russell passed away last year, April 6th. He and I were very close friends. I don't know how many of you knew him or talked to him much but I thought I'd reply to this list since he was huge into HAM radio. All of his email comes to me now, but if you want to remove his email address from the list you may do so.

I don't know anything about HAM radio but I always remember him saying he had a lot of gear (and I've seen it) and that "People depend on this stuff so let Dad know if I'm ever gone."... so I don't know if when we unplugged it all everyone who was using it was like what the heck is going on, but... if one of you were wondering, there's your reason why...

Big loss... I still have a hard time getting over it. He and I spoke weekly for 25 years...

Woody
woody at gpgsecure.com
woody at woodyhughes.com




------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, April 20th, 2022 at 11:55 AM, RileyC <rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> wrote:


>
>
> Thanks! Yes I've done that and converted a few. When I point Xastir to my
> Offline directory with the converted files, there are no maps.
>
> The documentation reads like I need a type of index file. I got the USGS
> csv indexes that match coordinates to the image files. I'm looking for the
> needed formatting for that index file. That's what I'm naively calling a
> .geo file.
>
> I can convert the USGS csv to the correct format, but I want to know what
> that format is.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Riley
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 11:10 Tom Russo russo at bogodyn.org wrote:
>
> > ".geo" files are not for referencing geopdfs, they're for georeferencing
> > images in PNG or JPG format (like a scanned image or something).
> >
> > Geopdfs are newer than any map type coded into Xastir, and there is no
> > native support for them at all.
> >
> > You can, however, convert geopdfs to GeoTIFF format, and they'll work just
> > fine.
> > Since they have georeferencing information in the file already, you need no
> > other additional files to do this.
> >
> > However, you do have to convert the file using a script called "
> > geopdf2gtiff.pl"
> > in the Xastir "scripts" directory, and this script requires that you have
> > GDAL installed (it uses gdalinfo, gdalwarp, and the "rgb2pct.py" script
> > provided by GDAL).
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:40:00AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
> > collision of the rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com flavor, containing:
> >
> > > I'm working on getting USGS offline maps, and I'm having problems
> > > bringing
> > > them up in Xastir. Is there a format documented for the indexing of the
> > > maps?
> > >
> > > The link in the documentation is broken:
> > > http://data.geocomm.com/quadindex/
> > >
> > > I've got the USGS index files that point to the Geopdfs, and can convert
> > > them so they will work like the link mentions, but I'm unsure how to
> > > format
> > > them.
> > >
> > > If I can get it working I can share my script.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Riley
> > > Kf4emz
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Xastir mailing list
> > > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> >
> > --
> > Tom Russo KM5VY
> > Tijeras, NM
> >
> > echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> > [n-z][a-m]
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xastir mailing list
> > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xastir mailing list
> Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir

From curt.we7u at gmail.com  Wed Apr 20 11:38:26 2022
From: curt.we7u at gmail.com (Curt Mills)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:38:26 -0700
Subject: [Xastir] Format for .geo files
In-Reply-To: <9RQyoLU3SZUPig5lYQtfx28csUmK39i3slxq7RrUdr6qHJ0oBSOkMdQ7coPoQywbORZUdDFOrzuzIEHvYQGhBd1gaT3q2Fbp89lPPQwJDuM=@gpgsecure.com>
References: <CA+9yHarFwq4-yBBkzUSS5ZMTMdG_SzODT4Ekm0L0ov8a_YG-1A@mail.gmail.com>
 <YmAiNcEFC0YDMcl5@bogodyn.org>
 <CA+9yHapsrSroEF1NL4cYqXQuRJX9gX2BmWqSq27KSLGxHm22dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <9RQyoLU3SZUPig5lYQtfx28csUmK39i3slxq7RrUdr6qHJ0oBSOkMdQ7coPoQywbORZUdDFOrzuzIEHvYQGhBd1gaT3q2Fbp89lPPQwJDuM=@gpgsecure.com>
Message-ID: <CAKDpQXmtQd6+yPXHwHhgZJHWr3Nbqu7TknKf55urD1FbTS719Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. I can remove that email from the list and will do so shortly. Sorry
for your loss. I have lost several close ham buddies over the last 10 years
or so.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 11:05 AM <drussell at gpgsecure.com> wrote:

> Don't know if you guys know it or not, but Don Russell passed away last
> year, April 6th. He and I were very close friends. I don't know how many of
> you knew him or talked to him much but I thought I'd reply to this list
> since he was huge into HAM radio. All of his email comes to me now, but if
> you want to remove his email address from the list you may do so.
>
> I don't know anything about HAM radio but I always remember him saying he
> had a lot of gear (and I've seen it) and that "People depend on this stuff
> so let Dad know if I'm ever gone."... so I don't know if when we unplugged
> it all everyone who was using it was like what the heck is going on, but...
> if one of you were wondering, there's your reason why...
>
> Big loss... I still have a hard time getting over it. He and I spoke
> weekly for 25 years...
>
> Woody
> woody at gpgsecure.com
> woody at woodyhughes.com
>
>
>
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Wednesday, April 20th, 2022 at 11:55 AM, RileyC <
> rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks! Yes I've done that and converted a few. When I point Xastir to my
> > Offline directory with the converted files, there are no maps.
> >
> > The documentation reads like I need a type of index file. I got the USGS
> > csv indexes that match coordinates to the image files. I'm looking for
> the
> > needed formatting for that index file. That's what I'm naively calling a
> > .geo file.
> >
> > I can convert the USGS csv to the correct format, but I want to know what
> > that format is.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Riley
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 11:10 Tom Russo russo at bogodyn.org wrote:
> >
> > > ".geo" files are not for referencing geopdfs, they're for
> georeferencing
> > > images in PNG or JPG format (like a scanned image or something).
> > >
> > > Geopdfs are newer than any map type coded into Xastir, and there is no
> > > native support for them at all.
> > >
> > > You can, however, convert geopdfs to GeoTIFF format, and they'll work
> just
> > > fine.
> > > Since they have georeferencing information in the file already, you
> need no
> > > other additional files to do this.
> > >
> > > However, you do have to convert the file using a script called "
> > > geopdf2gtiff.pl"
> > > in the Xastir "scripts" directory, and this script requires that you
> have
> > > GDAL installed (it uses gdalinfo, gdalwarp, and the "rgb2pct.py" script
> > > provided by GDAL).
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:40:00AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
> > > collision of the rufus.rizzo78 at gmail.com flavor, containing:
> > >
> > > > I'm working on getting USGS offline maps, and I'm having problems
> > > > bringing
> > > > them up in Xastir. Is there a format documented for the indexing of
> the
> > > > maps?
> > > >
> > > > The link in the documentation is broken:
> > > > http://data.geocomm.com/quadindex/
> > > >
> > > > I've got the USGS index files that point to the Geopdfs, and can
> convert
> > > > them so they will work like the link mentions, but I'm unsure how to
> > > > format
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > If I can get it working I can share my script.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Riley
> > > > Kf4emz
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Xastir mailing list
> > > > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom Russo KM5VY
> > > Tijeras, NM
> > >
> > > echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> > > [n-z][a-m]
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Xastir mailing list
> > > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xastir mailing list
> > Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> _______________________________________________
> Xastir mailing list
> Xastir at lists.xastir.org
> http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
>


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