[Xastir] UDP frames

Alan Crosswell alan at columbia.edu
Tue Jan 11 15:10:07 EST 2005


PS: The reason for putting the callsign in the v6 address is not because we need 
an IP address (EUI-64 stateless autoconfiguration gets you a perfectly good 
address) but in order to meet(exceed) the FCC ID requirements by having every 
transmission contain the station callsign.
/a

Alan Crosswell wrote:
> 
> 
> Andreas Junge, N6NU wrote:
> 
>> Do you really have an IP address when roaming around?
> 
> Do you care?  You are ID'd within the application layer.
> 
>>
>> If yes, does it have to be hard- coded?
>> Are we going to re-use the good old AMPRNET 44.xx.xx.xx ?
> 
> Heck no.
> 
>>
>> Are we going to use IPv6 ?
> 
> Yes!  And, analagous to EUI-64 (where some portion of the upper 64 bits 
> of the address are advertised by the router and the lower 64 bits are 
> derived from the Ethernet MAC address) derive the lower 64 bits from the 
> callsign.  This is EUI-64 stateless autoconfiguration (RFC2464, 
> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2464.html).  Similarly to use of EUI-64, one 
> could statically configure the address with the callsign and enough bits 
> left over for 2^16 substation IDs vs. the 16 you get with AX.25 (can't 
> say SSID in this context:-).  No more ARP or DHCP!  Adhoc v6 WLANs will 
> just work with v6 addresses.
> /a
> 
>>
>> So, MAC might be one approach ...
>>
>> N6NU
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xastir-bounces at xastir.org [mailto:xastir-bounces at xastir.org]On
>>> Behalf Of Jason Winningham
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:28 AM
>>> To: jeff at aerodata.net
>>> Cc: Xastir Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Xastir] UDP frames
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2005, at 1:17 PM, jeff at aerodata.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> tcp/ip, raw, by itself, is ill suited for a RF protocol.
>>>
>>>
>>> Who said anything about TCP?  We're talking UDP datagrams, not 
>>> connection oriented point to point TCP streams.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The MAC layer is your friend on RF. Understand it and take it to 
>>>> dinner.
>>>
>>>
>>> There's really no point, as far as I can tell.  UDP/IP maps to 
>>> datagrams on lower layers, so we can use the same software on 802.3, 
>>> 802.11, or any other IP network, with no changes.
>>>
>>> Implementing this on the 802.11 MAC hurts, not helps.
>>>
>>> -Jason
>>> kg4wsv
>>>
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