[Xastir] UDP frames
Alan Crosswell
alan at columbia.edu
Tue Jan 11 15:10:07 EST 2005
PS: The reason for putting the callsign in the v6 address is not because we need
an IP address (EUI-64 stateless autoconfiguration gets you a perfectly good
address) but in order to meet(exceed) the FCC ID requirements by having every
transmission contain the station callsign.
/a
Alan Crosswell wrote:
>
>
> Andreas Junge, N6NU wrote:
>
>> Do you really have an IP address when roaming around?
>
> Do you care? You are ID'd within the application layer.
>
>>
>> If yes, does it have to be hard- coded?
>> Are we going to re-use the good old AMPRNET 44.xx.xx.xx ?
>
> Heck no.
>
>>
>> Are we going to use IPv6 ?
>
> Yes! And, analagous to EUI-64 (where some portion of the upper 64 bits
> of the address are advertised by the router and the lower 64 bits are
> derived from the Ethernet MAC address) derive the lower 64 bits from the
> callsign. This is EUI-64 stateless autoconfiguration (RFC2464,
> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2464.html). Similarly to use of EUI-64, one
> could statically configure the address with the callsign and enough bits
> left over for 2^16 substation IDs vs. the 16 you get with AX.25 (can't
> say SSID in this context:-). No more ARP or DHCP! Adhoc v6 WLANs will
> just work with v6 addresses.
> /a
>
>>
>> So, MAC might be one approach ...
>>
>> N6NU
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xastir-bounces at xastir.org [mailto:xastir-bounces at xastir.org]On
>>> Behalf Of Jason Winningham
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:28 AM
>>> To: jeff at aerodata.net
>>> Cc: Xastir Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Xastir] UDP frames
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2005, at 1:17 PM, jeff at aerodata.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> tcp/ip, raw, by itself, is ill suited for a RF protocol.
>>>
>>>
>>> Who said anything about TCP? We're talking UDP datagrams, not
>>> connection oriented point to point TCP streams.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The MAC layer is your friend on RF. Understand it and take it to
>>>> dinner.
>>>
>>>
>>> There's really no point, as far as I can tell. UDP/IP maps to
>>> datagrams on lower layers, so we can use the same software on 802.3,
>>> 802.11, or any other IP network, with no changes.
>>>
>>> Implementing this on the 802.11 MAC hurts, not helps.
>>>
>>> -Jason
>>> kg4wsv
>>>
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