[Xastir] Archaic default map

Curt Mills curt.we7u at gmail.com
Mon Jul 29 11:22:11 PDT 2019


I'd lean toward more detailed maps at the cost of file size rather
than less detailed maps these days. Even for an Rpi the file size is
much less important. Perhaps someone can come up with some use-cases
where the filesize is still critical, but it's getting to be less of a
problem over time.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:00 AM Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 12:51:56PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <kilo5dat at gmail.com> flavor, containing:
> > Tiles require either Imagemagick or GraphicsMagick, and as Tom already
> > stated that's not desirable for a minimum install of Xastir.
>
> Yeah, but his follow-up appears to be volunteering to try to find a shapefile
> representation of the OSM data from which the Stamen tiles are generated.
> So long as the license is consistent (it may not be) that is helpful.
>
> We're also looking at naturalearth's shapefiles, which include a relatively
> small (750k or so), fairly rough map that could be suitable.
>
> We're not looking to have a default map that's high quality and beautiful,
> just one that isn't 30 years out of date.  We already have a low quality
> and ugly map, it's just also wrong.  It's about 250k.
>
> If a user wants a GOOD map, they're still going to have to do some work,
> either by building Xastir with support for on-line maps, or by finding
> more detailed local maps that suit their specific needs.  The naturalearth
> maps include much more detailed shapefiles that could be such a choice, but
> they're way too large to be part of the Xastir distribution.
>
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 3:05 AM Hal Mueller <hal at seanet.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Roughly what file size are we targeting? The Stamen stuff is based on Open
> > > Street Map. I think the country level data will be fairly easy to extract
> > > from OSM, or (more likely) already exists. If I see a way through I???ll hop
> > > over to github and self assign.
> > >
> > > Hal
> > > N3YX
> > >
> > > > On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:27 PM, Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Only vector maps need apply, specifically shapefile.  Anything else
> > > requires
> > > > too many TPLs, and that would be too big a "minimum" install.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 11:25:59PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron
> > > collision of the <hal at seanet.com> flavor, containing:
> > > >> Perhaps a joined together version of tiles at
> > > http://maps.stamen.com/toner/#5/38.221/17.402? What pixel size is
> > > preferred? How much space can it consume?
> > > >>
> > > >> Hal
> > > >> N3YX
> > >
> > >
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