[Xastir] UDP frames
Alan Crosswell
alan at columbia.edu
Tue Jan 11 10:11:45 EST 2005
Thing of coordinating frequency and SSID in adhoc mode just like coordinating
frequency and PL... Sure there's gotta be coordination.
/a
J. Lance Cotton wrote:
> Alan Crosswell wrote:
>
>> Bill Vodall wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm. Taking this a bit further. Won't an 802.11x device have to be
>>> in ESS (peer-to-peer mode) instead of IBSS (controlled by an Access
>>> Point)
>>> before it can pick up raw UDP packets? This shouldn't be hard to
>>> test..
>>
>>
>> Nope. UDP is just UDP. What the infrastructure (or lack thereof)
>> does is irrelevant. Think of it as working simplex (ESS) vs. working
>> via a repeater/digipeater (IBSS) is all.
>
>
> Except that if your 802.11b card is blasting away UDP packets in ad-hoc
> mode with the 'ssid' set to "abcd" and my 802.11b card is sitting next
> to it in ad-hoc mode with the 'ssid' set to "wxyz", my card doesn't hear
> anything from yours. So there has to be some amount of coordination.
> It's obviously not the same as AP association, but it's similar. Kismet,
> the 802.11 sniffer requires that your wireless card driver allows the
> card to be put in 'rfmon' mode, which is like promiscuous mode for wired
> ethernet. There has to be some kind of 'association' using the ssid or
> you have the equivalent of an ethernet card with no cable plugged in.
>
> Now, if we could get a wedge program that would turn on rfmon mode in
> the wireless driver, then we could have a 1-to-1 equivalent with
> AX.25/APRS...
>
> -Lance
>
>> You use UDP all the time when you watch streaming video or other
>> applications like that which can tolerate some packet loss and keep
>> working. You drop some video packets, the picture just gets a little
>> jumpy but it keeps working.
>>
>> /a
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