[Xastir] Xastir with Kantronics KAM not transmitting

Danny mynixmail at gmail.com
Mon Jul 6 14:09:09 EDT 2015



On Jul 06 15, Tom Russo :
> To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion <xastir at xastir.org>
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:04:43 -0600
> From: Tom Russo <russo at bogodyn.org>
> Subject: Re: [Xastir] Xastir with Kantronics KAM not transmitting
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12)
> X-BeenThere: xastir at lists.xastir.org
> 
> Xastir has had problems with the KAM in the past.  We had a long thread about
> it back in July-September 2012, and found that it was common for the KAM to 
> fail to go into "converse" mode when Xastir told it to, unless Xastir waited 
> for a little while after sending the "K" command.  Times required to get 
> it to work varied between users from 50ms to much longer.

O.k ... the KAM DOES submit a K and the delay is ticked ...

Here is a sample of the tnc.log ...

The line below shows that it is TX'ing (at least it shows "TX->" and then the
line below next to it in the "Display Packet Data" window) after I changed the TNCEXTRADELAY
to 2000000 microseconds ...

TX->ZS6XOX-10>APX204,WIDE2-1:=2612.15S/02815.28EyPHG8130Debian zs6xox at gmail.com 0739347438
TNC->MYCALL ZS6XOX-10
TNC->UNPROTO APX204 VIA WIDE2-1
TNC->K
TNC->=2612.15S/02815.28EyPHG8130Debian zs6xox at gmail.com 0739347438

The problem is that even though it shows the "TX->" part in the "Display Packet
Data" window, the red TX L.E.D does not light up ...

> The original fix for this was to add a constant delay for *ALL* serial TNCs,
> supposedly so small that nobody would notice.  But that didn't work out
> so well as 50ms was too short for some folks and what actually worked was too 
> long to be acceptable to users of other TNCs without the problem.  Now there's 
> a check-box on the interface page that says "Add Delay" --- which should be 
> checked for a KAM and defaults to unchecked.
> 
> If this button is not checked for your KAM interface, this is very likely your 
> issue.

It is checked ... ;)

> There is no GUI interface to change the delay length, because it is so rare
> that this comes up that it wasn't worth coding up.  If the delay is not
> long enough, or is too long, you can edit the xastir.cnf file "TNCEXTRADELAY" 
> line corresponding to the interface that needs it.  The number there is in 
> microseconds.  The default is now 1000000 microseconds, which is certainly
> long enough to get the KAM into conv mode, but can be serious overkill.  You
> can tune it down until it stops working.

I went up to 2000000 ... nothing ... :( ... well not really nothing ... at least
I have a "TX->" now ... ;) ...

It would be improper for me to continue to pester this mailing list if the simple 
answer to my problem is that the KAM is simply just too old and I am trying to 
achieve something more experienced Hams before me could'nt given that this issue
has been discussed before as you have pointed out ...

So I guess for my own piece of mind there are 3 things I need you to confirm for
me ... 
could you check if the pin-outs from the TM-271A to the KAM is correct here:
https://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?483978-Kenwood-TM-271-to-Kantronics-KAM

... and can you give me a tried and tested way to confirm that the KAM is in
KISS mode (yes ... I followed the steps in the manual ;) ) ...

... and can you confirm that the setting on my KAM is correct (below) ...

If all 3 of the above are honky-dory then I know the KAM is not up for the
task and I can sell it on eBay for at least $5000 as an antique (any takers?) ... 

My initialisation file for the KAM is like this (tnc-startup.kam):
 
 8BITCONV ON
 ASCBAUD  110
 ALIAS    OFF/OFF
 AX25L2V2 ON/ON
 ABAUD    9600
 AUTOCR   0
 AUTOLF   ON
 AUTOSTRT OFF
 AXDELAY  0
 AXHANG   0
 BEACON   EVERY 240/EVERY 240
 BKONDEL  ON
 BTEXT    Debian/Xaster Igate
 BUDLIST  OFF/OFF
 BUDCALLS NONE
 A/V Link state is: DISCONNECTED
 CANLINE  $18
 CANPAC   $19
 CCITT    ON
 CD       SOFTWARE/SOFTWARE
 CHECK    0/0
 CMDTIME  1
 CMSG     DISC/DISC
 COMMAND  $03
 CONLIST  OFF/OFF
 CONMODE  CONVERS
 CONOK    ON
 CPACTIME OFF
 CR       ON
 CRADD    OFF
 CRLFSUP  OFF
 CSTAMP   ON
 CTEXT    APRS Network no connected messages supported!
 CWBAND   200
 CWID     EVERY 0/EVERY 0
 CWSPEED  25
 CWTONE   750
 #DAYTIME  00/00/00  00:31:12
 DAYTWEAK 8
 DAYUSA   OFF
 DBLDISC  OFF
 DELETE   $08
 DIDDLE   ON
 DIGIPEAT ON/ON
 DWAIT    0/0
 ECHO     ON
 ESCAPE   OFF
 EXTMODEM OFF
 FLOW     OFF
 FILTER   OFF
 FRACK    4/4
 FSKINV   OFF
 FULLDUP  OFF
 GATEWAY  ON
 HBAUD    300/1200
 HEADERLN ON
 HID      OFF/OFF
 INTFACE  TERMINAL
 INVERT   OFF
 KNTIMER  15
 LCOK     ON
 LCRTTY   OFF
 LCSTREAM ON
 LFADD    OFF
 LLIST    OFF
 LOWTONES OFF
 MONITOR  ON/ON
 MALL     ON/ON
 MARK     1600
 MAXFRAME 1/4
 MAXUSERS 10/10
 MBEACON  ON/ON
 MCON     OFF/OFF
 MCOM     OFF/OFF
 MISSCHAR $20
 MORSE    
 CODE     TX      RX         CODE     TX      RX
 **--    $00    $00          *-*-    $2A(*) $4141(AA)
 ---*    $00    $00          ----    $00    $00
 ***-*   $21(!) $534E(SN)    **-**   $00    $00
 **-*-   $00    $00          **--*   $00    $00
 *-***   $25(%) $4153(AS)    *-**-   $00    $00
 *-*-*   $2B(+) $4152(AR)    *-*--   $00    $00
 *--**   $00    $00          *--*-   $00    $00
 *---*   $00    $00          -**-*   $2F(/) $2F(/)
 -**--   $00    $00          -*-**   $00    $00
 -*-*-   $26(&) $4B41(KA)    -*--*   $28(() $28(()
 -*---   $00    $00          --**-   $00    $00
 --*-*   $00    $00          --*--   $00    $00
 ---*-   $00    $00          ***-*-  $23(#) $534B(SK)
 *-***-  $00    $00
 
 MRESP    OFF/OFF
 MRPT     ON/ON
 MSTAMP   ON
 MYCALL   ZS6XOX-10/ZS6XOX-10
 MYALIAS  WIDE1-1/WIDE1-1
 MYAUTOST STOP4
 MYNODE   ZS6XOX
 MYPBBS   ZS6XOX
 MYGATE   ZS6XOX
 MYSEL4   57969 (ZSRS)
 MYSEL7   000000000 (VVVVVVV)
 NAVERR   5
 NAVMSG   ALL
 NAVSTA   ALL
 NDWILD   OFF
 NEWMODE  ON
 NOMODE   OFF
 NTEXT    
 NUCR     0
 NULF     0
 NUMNODES 0
 PACLEN   128/128
 PACTIME  AFTER 10
 PARITY   4
 PASS     $16
 PASSALL  OFF/OFF
 PBBS     18
 PBPERSON OFF
 PERSIST  192/63
 PID      OFF/OFF
 PMODE    NONE
 PORT     VHF
 POSTKEY  12
 PREKEY   12
 PROSIGN  $5C
 PTEXT    
 RBAUD    45
 REDISPLA $12
 RELINK   OFF/OFF
 REPHASE  ON
 RESPTIME 5/5
 RETRY    10/10
 RING     ON
 RNRTIME  0
 SCREENL  0
 SENDPAC  $0D
 SHIFT    170
 SLOTTIME 5/10
 SPACE    1800
 START    $11
 STATSHRT ON
 STOP     $13
 STREAMSW $7E/$7C
 STREAMCA OFF
 STREAMEV OFF
 SUPLIST  OFF
 SUPCALLS NONE
 SWP      25,8,75/17,17,108
 TRACE    OFF
 TRFLOW   OFF
 TRIES    10
 TXDELAY  30/30
 TXDAMTOR 5
 TXDFEC   0
 TXFLOW   OFF
 UNPROTO  CQ/CQ
 USERS    1/1
 USOS     ON
 WTEXT    
 XFLOW    OFF
 XMITECHO OFF
 XOFF     $13
 XON      $11
 
 73's
 
 Danny
 
 ZS6XOX


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