[Xastir] Couple of Small Problems, Maybe?

Fri Feb 17 16:08:42 PST 2017

I have been told directly by Pete Lovell that the firenet.us port 14580 
ports are filtered ports but not "IGate" ports.  Unlike the APRS-IS 
servers' port 14580 which is both a filtered port AND and "IGate" port. 
In his words, the firenet.us servers do not maintain a per-connection 
"heard" list and therefore do not forward messages addressed to stations 
gated via that connection nor any subsequent courtesy posits from 
stations originating those messages.

Pete told me not to connect an IGate to a firenet.us port 14580 becasue 
it wouldn't do proper messaging due to this lack of a "heard" list in 
those servers.

But yes, they are all running javAPRSSrvr, just that the configuration 
is apparently different.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 2/17/2017 10:22 AM, Curt Mills wrote:
> I guess I don't understand the "heard" list comment. The heard list is
> maintained in the APRS igate, not in the APRS-IS or Firenet servers. In
> fact the APRS-IS and Firenet servers are running the same server software.
> I know 'cuz I run two of the Firenet servers. I've also messed with the
> code in Xastir having to do with deciding whether or not to gate a message
> or ack/nack between the internet and RF.
>
> It's always possible (highly likely?) that I've forgotten something
> important too, so if I'm missing something here, please explain further.
> Thanks!
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:48 AM, fmhillhouse <fmhillhouse at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't believe an I-Gate CONNECTED To Firenet is a good thing. Firenet
>> does not utilize a 'heard" list so messaging is broken. An I-Gate should
>> always use APRS-IS.
>> A second instance of the client could be ran to provide a view of the
>> Firenet offerings.
>> Best regards, Fred N7FMH
>>
>>
>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Curt Mills <curt.we7u at gmail.com>
>> Date: 2/17/17  02:16  (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Halley Melinda <kd4fbi at yahoo.com>, Xastir - APRS client software
>> discussion <xastir at lists.xastir.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Xastir] Couple of Small Problems, Maybe?
>>
>> No, it's frowned upon to connect to multiple internet servers at once.
>> You'd switch the one you have defined over to one of the Firenet addresses
>> instead. Firenet and the APRS-IS servers are connected, so you should just
>> pick up MORE stuff with Firenet but not lose anything by connecting there
>> instead of APRS-IS.
>>
>> Some stuff is only on Firenet. Like quakes down to magnitude 0.1, more of
>> the NWS weather alerts, stuff like that.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Halley Melinda <kd4fbi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, Curt,thanks for the replies. I have the I-gating set up as you
>>> suggested. We're using noam.aprs2.net as the server and the code that
>>> callpass generated when we used it.
>>> When you talk about the firenet server stuff, how would I use that? Do I
>>> set up another internet interface?
>>> Thanks again,Mickey
>>>
>>>
>>>        From: Curt Mills <curt.we7u at gmail.com>
>>>   To: Halley Melinda <kd4fbi at yahoo.com>; Xastir - APRS client software
>>> discussion <xastir at lists.xastir.org>
>>>   Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:36 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [Xastir] Couple of Small Problems, Maybe?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Halley Melinda <kd4fbi at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hey David,This is Mickey, Flip's wife. the xastir site has "TBD" on the
>>> section for Igating. Other than how to turn on igating, there's no help.
>>>
>>> The most up-to-date docs would be the text files with the code. The Wiki
>>> pages won't be as complete.
>>> For igating there are two places to tweak in Xastir:
>>> 1) File -> Configure Defaults -> IGate Options2) Interface -> Interface
>>> Control -> Add -> Internet Server -> Add -> Put in options there for the
>>> particular APRS-IS server you want to connect to.
>>> I'd recommend checking "Activate on Startup?" "Allow Transmitting", and
>>> "Reconnect on NET failure?". You'll need to put in Host, Port, and
>>> Pass-code there.
>>> Also note that you can click on the dashed-line on the drop-down windows
>>> to chop them off and make them stick around for a bit. You can then hit
>> the
>>> 'X' in the corner to make them go away.
>>> Also on the "Interface" menu is "Disable Transmit: ALL". Do NOT check
>> that.
>>> --
>>> Curt, WE7U
>>> http://we7u.wetnet.net
>>> http://www.sarguydigital.com
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Curt, WE7U
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